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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7080 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject: Best Fiber Shake for Candida People |
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Okay, lots of Candida people are taking tons of Olive Leaf Extract and Caprylic Acid to fight off the candida. This stuff actually does work, however, when it comes to digestion, HOW you take it is just as important as WHAT you take. Herbs, oils, probiotics, must be DELIVERED to the site of infection or they simply get digested and absorbed like anything else, leaving the candida still there lining the intestines. The candida must be exposed to the active ingredients for it to work, and candida can bury itself pretty deep into the mucus and tissues.
So don't just swallow a bunch of caprylic acid gel capsules and expect them to do any good. They won't.
The best delivery system for anti-fungals is fiber and oils. The combo creates a glutinous, gel-like consistency that really presses against the walls of the intestines, delivering the anti-fungals where they need to go.
First off, find a bottle of liquid caprylic acid and add about a teaspoon to a couple tablespoons of good EV olive oil.
Add this new oil (Caproil) to your fiber shake. You can add it to any kind of fiber shake you make - psyllium, ground flax seeds, whole flax seeds, even a commercial intestinal cleanser. Mix it well. This will make psyllium much better for candida people too, helping to ensure it passes quickly and does not ferment. Use about one teaspoon of fiber and take 1-3 times a day. Use lots of fluids - plain water or cooled peppermint tea - and let it sit for awhile. If it's not glutinous now, don't worry, after about 20 minutes in your small intestine it will be.
Go ahead and add Oil of Orgeno, Olive Leaf, or any other anti-fungals you wish to add. Grapefruit seed extract is great.
About every four days, instead of adding the Caproil, make the fiber shake with 1/4 to 1/2 cup Kefir or open up a capsule of live acidophilus and add it. That will deliver the friendly microbes where they need to go. They will continue the balancing of the intestines and further reduce yeast. If you have Primal Defense, take it on these days too, but apart from the fiber as all of GofL's products have their own patented delivery system.
After you have used the anti-fungals for 10 to 12 days, take only probiotic shakes for a month or so then repeat if necessary.
If you can't find liquid caprylic acid, use plenty of GSE or oil of oregano and add more oil, preferably a good raw oil like wheat germ or ev coconut.
You can also add a teaspoon of lecithin to help the oil and water mix together better. Mix it all thoroughly before adding the fiber.
Last edited by shelley on Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:32 am; edited 1 time in total |
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ivana Moderator
Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 647
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Shelley,
I've been reading this post, god info.
I just bought my Caprylic Acid and by mistake it wasn't the capsule, but tablet, which make it pretty much hard to put in my P&B shake. Before I used to mix the powder from the capsule into it. Do you think I can use the tablets, drink them with my shake?
Other thing, you mention about making fiber shake with kefir, does that mean that instead of water we put kefir and psyllium and the rest of the staff all together? Also, I was taking my acidophilus about half an hour before the shake, is that the right way or I can drink it with my P&B shake?
thanks,
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7080 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ivana!
The caprylic acid powder won't work. It doesn't react with the psyllium and oils the same way.
Yes, kefir in exchange for all or just part of the water.
Depends on what kind of acidophilus. Anything in a caplet or capsule simply will not dissolve and disperse when taken with fiber. |
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sunlover Researcher
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi Shelley,
In the faq you say take this for 2 weeks only, because the Candida can get resistant to anti fungals, is that true for Primal Defense too? And can you take PD if you're already taking Colonix? Thanks |
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7080 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Primal Defense is not an anti-fungal. It is soil-based organisms, which are the transient microbes that help the friendlies. You can take it as long as you like, and it's great with Colonix as it does not have any microbes. |
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sunlover Researcher
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Oops I meant to say Garden of Life's Fungal Defense, it says you only take it for 14 days, should you wait a certain amount of time before taking it again?
Thanks |
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| yep! wait a month or so. |
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Troy McClure Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| sunlover wrote: | Hi Shelley,
In the faq you say take this for 2 weeks only, because the Candida can get resistant to anti fungals, is that true for Primal Defense too? And can you take PD if you're already taking Colonix? Thanks |
My experience has been that Candida can (and does) become resistant to primal defense (in the same way it becomes resistant to 3lac). When I first took primal defense it was extremely effective. Now I get a minimal efficacy.
It makes sense - the PD kills/displaces the candida which is susceptible to it, and over time you are left with the guys which are resistant, which then multiply.
So bottom line is don't plan on using it long term. |
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7080 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's more that the SBO's can only do so much. After awhile they've done all they can do. |
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Shawnamarie Confident Contributor
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, that should be fine.  |
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ithast2bu Grasshopper
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Since I've started taking the shakes, I get bloated and have horrible gas all day. :oops: Is there an alternate, like flax or ??? |
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| The fiber is moving much too slowly and is instead fermenting. You need to just focus on taking probiotics, digestive enzymes, and getting your fiber from veggies for awhile. Make sure to drink a gentle laxative tea if ever you have less than one BM a day, or if the BMs seem incomplete. |
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Grindster52 Grasshopper
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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hi Shelley,
I'm new here and i just want to ask you about the fiber shake.
we put all the contents(e.g. olive oil, coconut oil, fiber) into a WHOLE glass of water right?(around 250ml)
when i use a psyllium shake, i notice that the less water i put into it, the more "jelly-like" the contents are. Are you supposed to have everything jellylike before you drink? or can you have a full glass of water where everything is not as "jelly-like" before you drink?
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7080 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: |
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whoopsie, missed that last question.
The important thing is that the fiber must sit in fluids long enough to soak up all it's going to soak up, so that it is fully hydrated, before you swallow. I really like it when they are gelatinous/glutinous. Commercial cleansers add things like guar gum for this effect. |
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