Problems after 1st LF

[natesse]

Hi Shelley:

I found you on the curezone-thank you....) I've been corresponding in the LF forum there, and I feel a little better today after a salt water cleanse last night, but there is still something not right.
I did my first liver cleanse what will be 3 weeks ago on this coming Saturday. I did all the pre-requisite parasite cleanses, kideny cleanses, etc., and I followed Dr Clarks' LF procedure exactly.
I did very well. I could feel the stones emerging as soon as I laid down that night, and for the next two days I passed some large green ones, and lots of medium-sized tan ones, maybe 150-200 total.
I recovered pretty well but remained quite fatigued, and about 5 days after the flush I began having severe pain in the upper right abdomen.
After about 5 days of that, the pain moved to the upper left and my tummy.
I have not been able to tolerate any solid foods this week. My stomach has a constant sense of fullness. Even broth makes me sick. I tried a half a cup of organic butternut squash soup at noon yesterday, and I became so dizzy, lightheaded, and nauseated that I thought I would pass out. I was also sweaty and clammy.
I also took two magneiusm/calcium tablets with the soup, and a spoon full of flax seed oil-perhaps this made me sick? It was recommended that I take the magneisum/calcium for migraine.
I have no history of known gall baldder or liver problems, but I have a GURD history and an ulcer.
The last time my tummy felt like this, I was told it was GURD, but it didn't hurt this bad.
I have terrible indigestion even without eating, coming up into my throat, but not my mouth. I've had this problem for years, but it's worse right now.
Someone suggested a salt water cleanse last night, which I did, and which yielded copious amounts of bright orange liquid. I did drink fresh carrot/apple juice yesterday, so maybe that's why.
I don't mean to be gross, but, the smell was unlike any bowel movement I've ever experienced. It was strangely chemical-like, and horribly obnoxious.
Getting this out did help, since I do feel a little more energetic today, and not as lethargic as I have been.
However, I am convinced there is "something" (a stone?) stuck somewhere, and I need relief!
I am drinking lots of water, apple, and cranberry juice, along with aloe vera juice, and a tincture of liver clenasing herbs and kidney cleansing herbs with the juice three time a day.
I also have orange-ginger chai tea, which is not black tea based, and is organic.
The Epsom salts I drank with the LF are too rough for my digestive system. I need something less abrasive.
I have been browsing your FAQ's and forum, and I'm already gleaning much, but I'm hoping you or someone else might be able to add more to what I might do to help myself through this.
My tongue is fine btw.....) However, since this all started, my migraine syndrome is back, especially the headache, vertigo, imbalance, and anxiety.
An interesting note on this too-I have what's called vestibular migraine which is directly tied to my left vestibular nerve. I get severe ear and facial pain, and my left ear turns bright red as well.
Now, not only is my ear and trigeminal nerve acting up, but a spot in the back of my throat on the left side has also flared up and becomes very sticky and sore. It feels like, soemthing is stuck in my throat, and it hurts to swallow.
It's fine today, but it just occurred to me that this is somehow related to the nerves affected by my migraines because it isn't new-I just never made the connection before, and neither did my doctors.
When I was pregnant and my migraine symptoms first showed up and I had no clue what they were, I had a terrible time drinking anything because of the "lump" in my throat.
When I went to the ENT and he looked down my throat with a scope, there was nothing there! Now it's all starting to make sense, but how is this related now to the LF?
Thanks for listening.....)

Sharon

[shelley]

Hi Sharon! Welcome! It's great to have you here.

Okay, most of what you're experiencing is a healing crisis as your body adjusts to a cleaner liver. Most head/neck illnesses are tied in to the liver, as the liver uses the sinuses as a path of elimination. Weak digestion in general (GERD is usually LOW stomach acids, not high, and that will totally cause that lump in the throat feeling, lots of ear wax, TMJ and other weird symptoms) will cause the rest.

You're also experiencing the effect of messed up electrolytes, which tends to happen after taking in all those Epsom salts.

The Clark protocol is not a great protocol for a first-time flusher because she doesn't recommend near enough stone dissolvers or bowel management. If you were seeing stones 2 days after the flush, then you were poisoning yourself for two whole days, reabsorbing the toxins released by your liver!!! You have to get all that stuff OUT of you ASAP!

Lots of orange toxins indicates a stuck stone, yep. Best case scenario is the toxins are orange because they moved thru you really fast and so weren't acted upon by the things that change the color to a dark brown. And of course carrot juice/fiber tends to stay orange no matter what. But if you're still getting orange or totally pale, gray, clay-colored feces then you have a stuck stone and must flush again immediately. You must also do something to move the toxins out of you pronto.

Here's what I would do if I were you:
Starting in the morning on a day off work, then continue for about 3-5 days:
drink 2 cups of strong Peppermint tea, then wait one hour.

blend 2 garlic cloves, 1/2 inch of fresh ginger root, and 2 tablespoons of olive oil together. Set it aside.

Make a large glass of lemonade sweetened with Stevia or maple syrup.
Drink the oil, chase it with the lemonade, brush your teeth.

For the remainder of that day, drink my Cleansing Drink (recipe in FAQ). Best to drink it warmed up. It's also a meal replacement drink and will keep up your energy if you drink at least 2-3 a day.

Also drink Traditional Medicinal's Eater's Tea, the one with fennel. Yogi Tea has one just like it too. Ginger, fennel, cinnamon, are the main ingredients you want. Drink as much ginger or peppermint tea as you can.

Then in the afternoon or late evening, drink a good fiber shake with strong laxatives. Sonne's Intestinal Cleanser, Perfect 7 with cascara sagrada, or Dr. Christopher's bowel cleanse formula, would be fantastic. It would also be good to chase the oil/lemonade wtih a fiber shake about one hour after, if you think you can handle it. Don't trust senna, it often cramps without inducing a BM.

Get another colonic if you can, or do a Salt Water Flush.

Also, be sure to drink at least one Emergen-C each day, and take 500 mg of Calcium twice a day.

It would also be a good idea to take 500 mg of Malic Acid. If it burns your tummy, stop. If it doesn't, take it 2-3x a day until the bottle runs out. This will dissolve your remaining stones down to a tiny size that is very easy to pass so you no longer have to take Epsom salts to flush.

Hope that helps!

[shelley]

P.S.

Regarding the nerve issue - have you done a hair analysis for metals, or a blood test for B12 deficiency? If you have cracks on your tongue, or a thick middle line or grooves, then I'd start getting B12 shots pronto.

[natesse]

I think we're going to go bankrupt before I'm done with this! LOL! I wish I had been better informed before I jumped into this liver cleanse thing. You are right. There is not enough emphasis on a clean and functional bowel made by Dr Clark in her book. Live and learn, eh?...

I've made up my list for a trip to the health food store this evening, and I'll start your recommended regimen tomorrow. My poor kids are starting to think their mother is never going to make it through a whole day! My poor babies are not getting the attention they need, and neither is my house.

I have many left-sided troubles. Some go back many, many years, like my bad shoulder and neck on the left, but others came along with the onset of my migraine syndrome, like the restlessness and achiness in my left leg when I lay down each night.

I am learning so much, and finally putting together the pieces of my health puzzle. It is intriguing to me how you mentioned the sinuses as a disposal route for the liver. Since the onset of my very first migraine when I was 27, I have sworn it was related to my left sinus, which often feels full, but CT scans revealed an empty sinus. I also get alot of post nasal drip on the left side only. I don't think it's coincidental, and if I can get my whole body cleansed and restored to a proper balance, perhaps all the migraine trouble will go away. Wouldn't that be grand?....

I wouldn't be surprised if I do have metal toxicity. I tasted metal in my mouth last night when I was so sick before the salt water flush. I have several metal fillings, one root canal, and several metal wires in my jaw from a previous orthognathic surgery, which cannot be removed without surgery. I'll continue to take this one day at a time, and I pray I'll be feeling more normal soon.

I looked up kidney trouble symptoms on the net, and as far as I know, I am fine, but just in case, how would I know if my kidneys were somehow compromised? Thanks so much, Shelley. I'll let ya know how things go.

Sharon

[natesse]

Hi again Shelley:

I meant to tell you that I ordered an enema kit, a bottle of Oxy Powder, and a colon cleanse kit called HerbalFiberland, which you can read about here: http://www.juicing.com/colon1.htm

Until it all arrives, I'll continue with your recommended regimen, lots and lots of fluids, and a daily salt water flush, unless you think that's not advisable.

Sharon

[natesse]

One more thing....since I already have the magnesium/calcium combo tabs, would it be OK to take them instead of having to purchase calcium tabs separately? Thanks! Sorry for all the questions....

Sharon

[shelley]

yep, the mag/cal tabs should be just fine, so long as there's twice as much calcium as there is magnesium.

Left-side dominance of pain and symptoms speaks to a genetic proclivity to be deficient in minerals that are the left side of a mineral pair. Every mineral has a pair, one goes for left sided receptor sites, the other goes for right side receptor sites. The best site for reading up on that is www.acu-cell.com. When you have restless leg syndrome coupled with right or left side dominant migraines, then it's related to calcium/magnesium deficiency/imbalance. That plus too little zinc, too much mercury, can cause major back problems. One of the reasons that acupuncture works so well on back issues is that it raises the level of available zinc in the body.

Congrats on your purchases, I think you'll be feeling great very soon!

[natesse]

Hi Shelley:

Well, I feel more stable today. I always feel worse after taking in sustenance though. I've been reading the booklet by Teresa Schumacher that came today with my Herbal Fiber Blend-it came quick!

Anyway, she goes into great detail about all of the bodies systems, and about the symptoms of healing crisis, and what it all means. Now I understand better why my skin got all dryed up, and why I feel so lethargic and headachy.


I'm thankful that the toxins are moving out, and to know that all of these symptoms are mostly good things since it means my body is cleaning house.

I really like the protein shake and the cleansing drink. Thank you so much for your willingness to help your fellow man, Shelley. You are a gem!

Sharon

[shelley]

I'm so glad you're feeling better! Keep reading and learning and this too shall pass!