Need help fasting ...

[Troy McClure]

OK I reached the end of my tether with my candida yesterday. So I've decided to do a fast.

Only I'm new to fasting, so any advice/tips from veterens would be much appreciated.

My basic protocol is to use psyllium shakes twice a day, enemas twice a day, lemon + salt + water in between. Also I take chlorella too.

I have a few questions -

1. is it ok if I drink green tea, or will this undo the detoxing benefits of the fast?
2. Is it ok for me to take coconut cream? Will this aid my detoxing or work against it??
3. Are there any supps which I should take? e.g. Emergen-C? How about B complex?
4. How long (ballpark) can/should I do this for? Is a week realistic?
5. Any other tips for fasting???

Thanks,
Troy.

[harmony]

Now we are talking my stuff!

Fasting is brilliant.

I'm not a candida sufferer. So I have to go with your own knowledge on the coconut cream. (Sounds yummy)

A week is very doable.
If you go more than 3 days I'd say switch to veg juice on day 4 if you've never liquid fasted for that long before.

I'm liquid fasting right now.

I do the P&B shakes. But I only have one a day right now.I will on occasion grind up some golden flax seed and replace the P with that.

I do water + fresh organic lemon or lime juice + cayene pepper.

I drink teas as well when I need a little comfort or warmth. My favorite while cleaning is peppermint. I stay away from my licorice teas while cleaning.

A little aloe juice to build tissue.

emergen C everyday.

I take a iron supplement as well because I'm pretty anemic.
I also think you have to do something to keep you magnesium and potasium levels in check. I have messed myself up here a bit in the past and it really can pull you way down, especially while doing the Shakes.

I do enemas once daily most days.

And lots of good water.

I've only just started to take a tiny bit of coconut oil.
I'm trying to mentally adjust myself to the idea that there are good fats(Ha ha) I've ordered a few of the books you recommended in another post. On fats.

I don't do intensive workout when fasting, I do gentle exercise, and lots of meditation and positive living. I try to ease back on the daily demands I make on myself in the go go world.
I think this is key to sucess in fasting. Relaxation, positive energy and thinking work etc. I use imagery to 'see' the toxins leaving my cells and out of my body. I did this years ago when I was going through cancer treatment for some tumors.


Good luck to you.
I know Shelley will have additions to offer.

[Troy McClure]

Thanks Harmony. Your post means a lot to me.

I've never liquid fasted. The problem with veg-juice is that I'm very intolerant of sugars (due to candida) so it makes it tricky. I would love to be healthy enough to veggie juice fast. It sounds so detoxifying.

I've got some pre-ground flax which I may take as an alternative to psyllium, but my mainstay is psyllium becuase the main aim of this fast is to cleanse my colon of the 2lbs of candida that currently lives there.

Is the cayenne really all that? I'm taking it because at least it warms me up.

You and me both for peppermint tea! I just bought some today. On reflection I'm not tolerating green tea very well. Even that slight amount of cafeine raises blood sugar enough to send my colon throbbing.

I'm glad you've started on the coconut oil. It really is a miracle food. Let me know how it goes.

Talking about your cancer treatment, I may add some coffee enemas to my routine - ala Gersen therapy.

Thanks again for your valuable advice.

[harmony]

I think the ground flax seed works the same as the psyllium for scrubbing and moving things along. I grind my own fresh from seed in a cheapo coffee mill I bought just for my seeds.

I find the cayenne along with the lemon combination does something to lossen junk up in there.
I past plaque using these. I was also using the P&B shakes during that cleanse.

Oh, I forgot to mention I always start the day with some warm water. A glass or two. I think this really helps clean out what the body gather's during the night. While you are resting your body is moving all kinds of 'do not needs' around into the colon.
Happy cleansing.

[shelley]

1. yes
2. no
3. yes
4. as long as you feel energetic. Stop if you feel like collapsing.

For first fasts, nothing beats veggie broth and the cleansing drink (use molasses or no sweetener at all if you can handle it), and of course Emergen-C and digestive teas.

Why don't you try the Vital Cleanse without the veggie juices?

[harmony]

Hi,
I was wondering how you were doing. Did you attempt the fasting?

[Troy McClure]

Hi Harmony!
Thanks for asking. I did the fast - 5 days. On day 3 I tried juicing which made the fast easier. Big mistake. The sugars went straight to my colon and started fermenting!

So some of the fast was wasted recovering from that. But I did get some successes:

1. My skin looked fantastic - this was the biggest and most obvious health benefit.
2. I literally threw away over half my supplements whilst I was fasting - the psychospiritual urge to cleanse physically and emotionally when fasting is unbelievable.
3. I have 2 areas of my colon where the candida has a foothold - the cecum, and the splenic flexure. When fasting I could easily remove the candida in my cecum (for the first time).

Unfortunately the area around the splenic flexure is covered in mucous, and candida uses this as an ideal hiding ground. Unfortunately fasting didn't really seem to affect this area - I wasn't able to reduce this candida.

Over all I have learnt a lot. Fasting is definitely the way forward. But I have a lot of refining to do. This is just the first step on a long road.

Thanks for all your help, it was really useful. I'm sure I'll be bugging you again.

Troy.

[harmony]

So glad you made some progress.

the pschospiritual urge to cleanse physically and emotionally when fasting is unbelievable.
A huge smile broke out on my face when I read this. I nearly clapped out loud here at my desk.
Truely amazing. It is a feeling like none other the positive energy that can just say this is right and I can make things happen.

5 days is excellent. Darn sugars messing you up. Too bad. Good for you going to water after the flare up.

All the best too you!

[shelley]

Wow! Troy used the word spiritual! I'm impressed too! hehehehehehhe. j/k Troy, you know I love you, you healthy skeptic you!

[Troy McClure]

Shelley,
I *am* a skeptic. Sometimes that can work against me.

e.g. I have a nutritional problem - chronically malnourished. Logically I need more food/supps right? Wrong! I need less. The body takes care of itself once we stop interfering with it.

This is the second time I have been impressed by the amazing direct link between the physical body and the spiritual/emotional (liver flushing being the other case).

Also the human body has a reverse mode where it cleans house. All you have to do is stop eating and that reverse mode is activated. Remarkable.

Harmony you are right about the positive energy and creative force that is generated from fasting. You get in touch with the life force. I was on a real high before/during/after my fast.

I need to get back to that place!

[shelley]

I have times when eating much less is energizing, and times when my tonics are the best way to go. I don't have a hard and fast rule as to what decides which is which, unfortunately, apart from a coated tongue usually meaning a need for at least a sem-fast. Would love to find an even better guideline/rule. Seems tho, that if you've never ever fasted, fasting is the first thing you should try, since most people overwhelm their digestion and elimination.

[edenfield]

hey troy, sorry if you've answered this before but how do you know where the candida is located in your intestine?

[Troy McClure]

[harmony]

Excellent explaination Troy.
I think a lot of people do the enema's with a (there, that's done. Glad that's over with) attitude.
I think it requires a relaxed state, and some focus on what is going on.
Much like you refered to
I know where the problem areas are. After a while you build up a pretty precise image of your gut. This is one of the benefits of doing enemas (I have found).

The graphic you posted of the digestive system is a great reference tool for us all. Thank you.

[edenfield]

yes i find when i do an enema and visualize it going through all the twist and turns, i seem to be able to take more and hold it for longer etc