Candida Diet Limit of Carbs?

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

I'm starting fresh with your diet and recommendations and have a few questions.

It seems from what I've read that I should stay away from all grains and starchy veggies for 1 month. Is that appropriate? Or are small amounts, maybe a few cups of appropriate grains ok if pungent therapy is used?

Are all other things okay and not limited with the exception of the ok fruits? Should nuts, beans and hummus be limited? How about vegetable carbohydrates. I've seen other diets that have you count the total number of carbs and you can't go over a total of 60-100 per day and that includes veggies.

Thanks,
Janie

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

I've been doing some additional reading of your posts and have a few more questions. Since certain nuts are allowed to be eaten do they always have to be soaked or is that not necessarily the case?

I see from other posts that in the first month it's okay to have certain grains with pungent therapy. So just limit them to no more than 2 cups a day okay?

Still curious about the other question on counting the total number of carbs per day and whether to limit the amount of beans, hummus, veggies and nuts. If you could confirm how that works that would be great.

Also, it appears that it's best to stay away from all fruit for a month. I'm assuming it's okay to use small amounts of lemon and lime. Is it ok to use unsweetened cranberry juice?

Thanks,
Janie

[shelley]

Good questions, I can tell you've been reading.

As with a lot of stuff that involves eating, you have to discover your own limits, and test those limits occasionally because they will change as your candida gets properly balanced. Nuts are very hard to digest, and their nutritional benefits aren't completely bio-available unless they are soaked or even sprouted. So soak them when you can, and if you can't, just make the meal small or grind them up into nutbutter or pesto to make them easier to digest.

Yep, about 2 cups a day, or two smallish servings, is about right. If you're handling that okay and symptoms aren't getting worse you might be able to handle more. Basically, take your weight and times it by 10. That's the TOTAL number of calories you need. 30% to 40% of those calories should come from protein, 30% from good fats, the rest from carbs. So I weigh 114 pounds, which means I need at least 1140 calories to maintain my weight, most days, and at least 400 calories from protein, which is about 4-5 ounces of steak, 4 eggs, etc. with a cup and a half of grains at lunch, cup at dinner.

Cranberry juice is great for the kidneys so I recommend trying it and seeing if you can handle it without bringing on symptoms. 90% of the time members report that they can have it the first month with no problems. And as of the 2nd or 3rd month you can usually have berries.

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

Thanks for your reply. In reading even further last night I believe I have leaky gut and probably need to follow the leaky gut protocol instead. Maybe you can shed some light and correct me if I'm wrong.

I've been dealing with trying to battle this for over 2 years. Followed many different diets and treatments and still haven't gotten much further. (I've eliminated acid reflux but my other symptoms are always there but not as horrific as they'd been when I was not following an anti-candida diet.

I've spent thousands of dollars on treatment and supplements but just recently tried something new. I've had chronic constipation so my naturopath recommended I try a colema board. After using it for several days and limiting my diet to veggies and soups I felt a thousand times better. My brain fog was very low, vaginal discharge almost completely stopped and the oral thrush was minimal. I think I was on to something. As soon as I went back to my regular "anti candida diet" (which by the way included potatoes, corn, tomatoes and sauce and certain fruit and nuts) I was right back where I started and struggled with the constipation and bloating again.

I've been taking anti fungals and acidophilus for months but feel they're really not working. I was taking a significant amount of colon cleansers but was incredibly constipated. In the 8 months I've been following this program I've gained 16 lbs and I didn't need to.

I have a high sensitivity to onions and garlic and don't deal well with either.

So my questions are these:

Does it seem I should be following the leaky gut protocol?
If so, do I completely eliminate the fruits and just stick with the cooked veggies, juicing, cleansing salads, kichadi, pastas, meats?
Should I follow this for 3 months and then go to the more standard "anti candida" diet you have listed?
To do the colonics or colema board is it best to stay with a completely vegetarian diet during those days?

I'm at wits end and just really looking for some direction now.

Thanks so much for this,

Janie

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

Sorry, I forgot to add a few more things that might be helpful for you to know.

I've been dealing with the following symptoms for 3 years: vaginal discharge, brain fog, athlete's foot, oral thrush, bloating and constipation. (Although now taking triphala the constipation is gone) I have a split in my tongue which is not tremendously deep but still visible. Just behind it I have a white coating. I also have some red spots in the middle and back of my tongue. I do have scoliosis and see a chiropractor on a regular basis. Additionallly, I have 3 mercury amalgams and have had one root canal. The last thing you should know is that I have raynaud's.

With all that said, I do think I have leaky gut. Would you tend to agree? If so, by following the leaky gut protocol would that make the most sense for me at this stage?

My thoughts were these:

carrot Cleansing salad
protein drink
meat broths
kichadi
limit meats and fish
Avoid all sulphur foods.

I don't have a juicer so can I cook veggies and puree them?

Don't eat anything I've been eating a lot of for the last year.

Use my colema board 3 x per week

Eliminate colon cleanser and antifungals and pre and probiotics temporarily.

Start l-gluthamine, slippery elm and marshmallow. Continue with triphala if needed.

Does it appear I'm missing anything? Please let me know if I am. How long should I follow this protocol, until the crack in my tongue disappears? Any idea if this should be a short term or long term plan?

Thanks very much in advance,

Janie

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

I've been following the leaky gut protocol and doing reasonably better. As I didn't hear anything further on my questions I decided to proceed as if I have it. Some of my discomfort has been alleviated by taking out the foods that appear to have been allergens.

Tonight I tried the kichadi and within a few hours after eating it I had a tremendous amount of gas (no odor). I ate it along with asparagus and some organic beef. Prior to my meal I took digestive enzymes and the cal-mag. This was the first time I'd experienced this since I've started the leaky gut protocol.

I've cleansed the last 2 days with my colema board and plan to do it again tomorrow. I haven't done a liver cleanse yet because of the suspected leaky gut but am drinking your protein drink and getting the lecithin in as well as eating the cleansing carrot salad. As far as other raw food, earlier in the day I'd had avocado with cilantro and a brown rice tortilla.

I have had a terrible headache all day and have wondered if I'm possibly going through some die off and that the gas is going along with it.

Just wondering if I've done something wrong to feed the yeast or if you have some ideas as to combat the gas while I'm battling this.

Thanks,
Janie

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

I've been working on everything at the same time, was feeling reasonably better but now not so sure. I have a few additional questions.

Thought I had the leaky gut under control so I started the acidophilus orally and rectally today. Now I notice a crack in the tongue a little deeper then it's been. Should this be a problem? I hope I can continue.

I moved from the leaky gut diet to the candida protocol a few days ago and along with it really began the liver cleansing. Other then gas after the kichadi meal the other day I've noticed a decrease in odorless gas during the day. Yesterday I tried a green apple to see if I could tolerate it and within hours started having the vaginal discharge, brain fog and other symptoms return. I awoke with them again today. It seems worthwhile not having any fruits for some time then.

Right now I'm doing the following:

Upon rising: triphila and acidophilus
Using colema board and acidophilus rectally (3 -4 days per week)

Breakfast: protein shake (take cal mag prior and 800 mg. malic acid with it) and 8 oz of carrot juice

Lunch: brown rice tortilla, 1/2- 1 T olive oil with avocado, cilantro and 2 small slices chicken and the carrot cleansing salad

Dinner: steamed veggies/chicken/fish or beef (2-4 ozs) either basmati rice or brown rice pasta with lots of pungent spices

Dessert: small homemade brown rice cereal bar with a little almond butter. (I use brown rice syrup and brown rice crispies)

Here are my questions:

I seemed to have a rise in symptoms and a great deal of cramping in my right side that began the other day and was worse over night. Last night I was nauseous all night.
Am I doing this protocol properly or do you have some other suggestions? Should I add anything further? I really do not want to do a major flush at this point but just to continue a constant cleanse that allows for slow flushing. Should I add anything to this? My brain fog and mental clarity is particularly bad could that be from die off or just what I'm going through because of the candida? Also, due to constipation issues I've had I've been reluctant to add any fiber cleansing to my protocol. I have 1-2 bowel movements a day, should I consider adding some? If so, which is best and about how much?

Your thoughts and recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Janie

[shelley]

Hi Janie! I think your protocol is excellent, but yes there are things you can add. Based on your symptoms, I would consider these:

Gold Coin Grass (right side pain was either bowels or liver/gallbladder).
Taurine - increase bile production
Add ginger to your carrot juice

The tongue crack will get worse and better as you cleanse, just keep an eye on it. I don't know if you should add any more fiber than what's already in your diet while it's there, but you may want to consider taking bentonite clay or activated charcoal for a day or two each week.

Take the stomach acid self-test (nausea is most often caused by low stomach acids). If you test out fine, start taking Zinc. Do you know whether your iron levels are good? Drink ginger tea if another bout hits.

hope that helps!

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

I really appreciate the reply. I'm still having odorless gas so I assume that has to do with not digesting the carbs, is that why you also recommend the stomach acid test? I hadn't noticed this problem until I started this diet. I'll do the test and see what happens.

Yes, I think my iron levels are fine. How much zinc should I take? Okay to apply it on my skin?

I've been eating the carrot cleansing salad and carrot juice for almost a week and taking the lecithin for the last 4 days. Is it okay to begin the protocol for the slow flush? Since I've been doing the bile cleansers can I move onto the drink with the oil/garlic and ginger to hopefully start releasing some stones? I want to start the flushing or is it too soon?

For a cereal is it okay to do brown rice cereal as my fiber breakfast?

Thanks again,
Janie

[shelley]

Yep

Zinc is best taken at 50 mg chelated, once a day, altho I also like the liquid zinc if you can find it, so that you can do the taste test and verify you need it.

I'd wait a bit. If you take GCG or malic acid you can be ready in 4 days, otherwise you shouldu wait a week. Taurine, dandelion tea, are also good.

yep! and quinoa, and brown rice farina...

[goodck]

Great, thanks!

Just a few more questions if I may:

Is it normal to expect the symptoms to change (lessen or increase) along this candida protocol? I really don't think I'm eating anything to feed it but once I get the digestion under control(odorless gas) will that help to get me on my way?

Do you find that people need to stay on the strict diet for longer than 3 months? I have been on what I thought was the right anti candida diet for 2 years and haven't had white sugar, white flour, dairy or alcohol and yet I'm still not better. Do you see that people need to stay off these things indefinitely? Will 1 indulgence in one of those items after the 3 month period really set me back?

Lastly I just want to clarify the slow liver flush protocol. I understand the process for the first week but the second week I'm confused.
It's written:
"After one week of this protocol, start the morning cocktail cleansing and do this for one week in conjunction with your stone dissolvers and bile cleansers"
Can you tell me what the morning cocktail cleansing is?

Thanks again,
J

[goodck]

Hi Shelley,

I did the stomach acid test this a.m. and the HCL I took was combined with a digestive enzyme. I had a burning in my chest before and right after I ate.

I tried it again at lunch and reduced the amount. Immediately after lunch I had the burning again, odorless gas and burping.

Come to think of it before even trying the HCL and digestive enzymes I was burping afterward, burning in chest and odorless gas almost right after I ate. At lunch today I had a small amount of chicken with avocado and brown rice tortilla? I'm not sure if I have low or too much stomach acid at this point?

Thanks..

[shelley]

Everyone's different, it depends on what your core issues are, what allowed the candida to get out of balance, that will dictate whether or not you can go back to the standard junk-food diet or not.

The morning cocktail is a bit of oil mixed with cayenne and garlic. You need a bit of straight oil to flush the liver a small amount, keep things moving.

Burping and flatulence usually speaks to a lack of probiotics, digestive enzymes, bile, carbonates and stomach acids, and sometimes liver stones. If you got burning sensations from adding acidifiers, then your stomach acid levels are fine. Move on to the other options: taurine, beets, enzymes, B vits, baking soda and acidophilus.

Taurine: up to 500 mg a day for a week
B-50 B complex or NYF. NYF you can have every day, B-50 complex you only need about 3-4 times a week for a couple weeks.
Beets you can have half a one, juiced, or grate half a one into your salads, twice a week.
Baking soda: 1/2 a teaspoon in a glass of warm water away from meals, 3-4 times in a week. That should be all you need.
Acidophilus: take refrigerated pill with meals as often as possible.