iodine suppy

[RyanD]

Hi Shelley,
I emailed the company for that liquid iodine product and just wanted to check with you to make sure its ok for absorbability etc. They said that these are the only ingredients:

Iodine Recrystal
potassium Iodine Crystal
Distilled Water
Glycerine USP

Thanks!

[RyanD]

O I forgot to mention I read a post on curezone in which someone else asked about this suppy and the people that replied said it was kinda not worth it, to get Lugol's instead and that you would need 60-100 drops of this stuff (which has 0.25 mg of iodine per drop) to equal 1 drop of lugol's. And apparently Lugol's has 6mg of iodine per drop. Well, the math obviously doesn't add up, but maybe there are other factors involved? I have heard good things about Lugol's, and apparently you can get it at the pharmacy in Canada, but don't you think that's a bit much iodine? I know it's a different formula, but I'm not too familiar with how it all works and gets absorbed, so, do you think it might be a good idea to consider lugol's or should I be fine with the suppy I found? Thank you sooooo much

[marniewon]

I know you are looking for Shelley's input on this, but I just had to respond to your question. If you've been to the Iodine forum at CZ and read anything at all, you know that 95% (or more) people need iodine. And a lot more than the RDA amount.

Many allopathic medicines contain fluoride, so if you've ever taken any of those, you need iodine. Most breads contain bromine, so if you eat bread, you need iodine. Citrus drinks (Mt. Dew, gatorade, etc) contain bromine (ide) so if you ever drank that, you need iodine. If you ever went to a dentist and got a fluoride treatment, or use toothpaste with fluoride, or drank tap water with fluoride added, you need iodine.

Have you ever used a flea bomb? Or any chemicals to get rid of unwanted pests? How about the mosquito truck that drives by and controls the mosquito population? Or the chemtrails that are in our skies?

The Japanese ingest around 50mg iodine per day. According to Drs. Fletcha, Abraham, etc, some diseases are cured/controlled at 400-500mg/day.

If you really believe you are deficient in iodine (which you are, unless you live somewhere that is untouched by any chemicals) than you need more than one drop per day at .25mg/drop. Lugol's IS your best bet, and you can take as much or as little as you want. If you read through CZ you will find testimonies as to the healing going on with iodine.

Good luck to you!

[RyanD]

Hi Marniewon,
Thanks so much for you're reply! I have done all those iodine deficiency causing thinks on your list... minus the chemical sprays. Hmm...This is quite an interesting topic. I see RDA for iodine for my age is 150 mcg. Therapeutic is 250mcg - 130 mg. That's a BIG range! Hmm, but how to tell what''s right for me? I just don't wanna take too much, because it is toxic in super high dose. Hmm, my ancestors did live close to the ocean (Holland) but they disn't eat fish or seaweed or sea things in general. And you say the Japanese have 50mg a day? Wow. The main reason I'm considering taking it is because my hair is thinning/receeding a bit (and I'm only a 20 yeat old guy), and I guess the "building blocks" as Shelley would put it are not there for my thyroid to make the hormones. So I figure I must need some more. Hmm.... so you def recommend the Lugol's eh. Apparently I can get it at the pharmacy. Well, let's see if Shelley recommends it, thank you sooo much I really appreciate your help Marniewon peace

[marniewon]

How much you personally need is the million dollar question! There was one doctor (can't remember his name, but you can find it on CZ) that took a GRAM a day for a long time with no adverse results! Now, I wouldn't take that much and would never recommend anyone else take that much either. If you go to CZ and Iodine Supplementation you can listen to the audio of Dr.s Abraham and Flechas and they will explain exactly why people are deficient in I and the supps to take with I to further the absorption/lessen detox. The dosing for I ranges from 1 drop (Lugol's or 1 Iadoral) 3x a week to some people on CZ taking 200-400mg a day.

So far, I have started slow, and have had to back off a few times now due to detox. I'm at 25mg a day, with usually taking a break on the weekends to let my body catch up with detox. My eyesight is better, my skin is smoother, my digestion is better and my allergies are not bugging me near as much as they were before, with no meds. And I've only been doing this for about a month now.

[RyanD]

Hmm this is really encouraging! I shall def look into that audio on CZ. I should really book a physical to get a thyroid panel too, as I've never done that. Hmm... the only reason I was initially turned off by lugol's is that it contains iodide, which is in table salt and some people said that in the salt it doesn't get absorbed, just stored in the body. But maybe it is fine in this solution? Hmm... shall have to look that up... do you happen to know marnieone? 25 mg a day you are at...hmm... the more I read the more I think it would be ok to take higher than RDA doses, but I still wonder why Shelley recommends only RDA? Anyways, I shall make a decision soon, but I'm gonna read into things a bit more first. Thank you marniewon!!

[marniewon]

I found this in relation to your Q re: Iodide: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=890301 Apparently different parts of the body require different forms of Iodine. So having the Iodide being stored in the body is actually what you want to happen - so the body can use it as needed.

It's definately encouraged to read as much as you can on this protocol before starting, so you know what to look for as to detox and to get the dosing right for you. There's a lot of info out there, but if you get stuck, ask on CZ - some of them have been doing this for 6 months or so and are doing great!

[shelley]

I recommend RDA of iodine because if you overdose you'll get acne and your hair will fall out, plus you'll stop thyroid function. That's not a good goal.

And it depends on WHY the iodine is being stored in the body. Sometimes the only reason it's being stored is because it cannot use it. That's not a good reason to store iodine. At that point, it's heavy metal toxicity. Don't give yourself heavy metals toxicity!!!

[marniewon]

So, Shelley, you don't believe/agree that the other halides (chlorine, bromine, fluoride) displace iodine in our bodies to make us deficient in Iodine? And that there is way more of the other halides in our foods, air, water, etc than iodine (and there was before)? Are you aware of Dr. Flechas and Dr. Abraham's studies into iodine and the need/deficiency in our bodies, and disagree with them? Or have you never heard their theories?

Not trying to start a debate, just questioning to understand

[shelley]

No, I know we can become deficient quite easily, which is why Iodine is one of the components of what I call "Skin Food." But you have to be careful with all minerals because overdosing will backfire and cause deficiences of other minerals. Overdosing Iodine in particular will make you worse off than a deficiency does. A lack of iodine will cause a goiter, but so will an overdose! A lack will inhibit the thyroid, an overdose will KILL the thyroid.

[RyanD]

Hmm... I am in a bit of a pickle here. I owe it to you Shelley to trust you more than anyone else (and I do); you have proven yourself time and time again and helped me so much. I know that you recommend the acucell website. It does say on that site that the guy had witnessed several patients taking up to 6mg (the amount per drop of lugol's) with no ill effects. And like marniewon has pointed out, there are tons of people on curezone (and the Japanese) that consume way more than RDA. Yet it also says on acucell that if you have long standing deficiency (which I prob do... I checked positive for many of the deficiency causes marniewon posted, got symptoms, and I do have a history of eating a fair amount of goitrogenic foods: peanut butter, then flax oil in Udo's since I gave PB up) starting to supp to much can trigger hyperthyroid. So I will start small and gradually work my way up, and then only if I feel the need, goin' basically by symptoms and intuition. I have one more question: would it be okay to take larger dose every few days or so instead of just the RDA every day? Cuz I could get that other stuff I was asking about for RDA, but I've been hearing such great things about Lugol's I think it must be a good formula with the iodine/iodide. So many people have had success with it. But like I said, dosage is 6mg/drop. Is it okay to do it this way or does the body only absorb so much at a time... like would this cause mineral imbalances etc. If you think RDA daily is better than I guess I'll just get that stuff that has .25mg/ drop... although I haven't really found anyone who has had success with that formula. I guess if I really wanted I COULD put a drop of lugols in a glass of water mix it around and like split that into parts to make smaller dosages of iodine. Talk about getting health CREATIVE! lol. But then who knows if it distributed evenly. Hmm... what do you guys think? Thank you both! ~toodles for now

[marniewon]

If you decide to go this route, make sure to start slow and really listen to your body! I started at 3 drops per day, some have started at 50mg, some take only 1 drop every few days (however, most Iodine people don't believe that that's enough to even matter if that's the long-term protocol). Everyone is different, so listen to what your body says to you. Also, here's a link to the protocol (supps recommended + detox flush): http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html. If you have any iodine related questions/problems, come on over to CZ.

To Shelley: you have helped me immensely also - I do not mean to take anything away from everything that you teach - you are awesome! I'm just trying to help a fellow health seeker however I know to.

Marnie

[shelley]

therapeutic doses (more than RDA) of a mineral are fine as long as you do the research first and know what the signs of overdosing are and back down to RDA if you see any, and know which minerals you'll be antagonizing and plan on supplementing them after you're done with fixing iodine.

A therapeutic dose of iodine can be as much as 6x the RDA amount. If you're 200 pounds or over, then go for that. If you're less, go for 3x RDA.

So watch out for palpitations, sweating, rashes, insomnia. I'm not sure what iodine depletes besides some B vits, but you may need tin (it's in NYF) to keep the ratio balanced.