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columbo
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: taking ala Reply with quote

question. i posted a few weeks back that i was feeling so much better after starting the ala. well that was short lived. i guess its the reaction described in the cutler book. very tired...need daily naps just to function. the question i have is, i read some places that taking ala, which is meant to activate the stores of metals, will increase yeast growth in the degestive system as the metals are deposited there. is that true and if it is, should we be periodcially taking the anitfungals to fend it off? caproil? GSE? or just be taking mass amounts of supplemental probiotics, kefir, etc.?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's true. I have tons of fillings and was able to cure candida without removing them. I've been reading up on microbes for ages and never has that supposed connection between mercury and candida been explained in a way that makes it conclusive to me. Besides, if it was, then everyone with fillings would have candida, and they don't. No, what's more likely is people with mercury poisoning are very low in copper and nickel and thus their immune systems are totally impaired, and the fact that they have tons of fillings indicates a sugar-rich diet which always, eventually, leads to candida overgrowth.

What's more likely is you have exceeded your comfort zone - you're moving toxins around without exiting them fast enough. If you're not taking the thigns that help the body exit toxins it's no wonder. (Vit C, Cleansing Drink, MSM, enemas, detox baths, dry brushing... etc.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think yu're right about that because while ive been feeling bad, i feel immediately better upon going to the bathroom , which is not as often as ide like lately. my sinuses clear and my head will clear for a while. i havent been doing much to induce going to the bathroom, other than the occassional stimulant tea. i would do enemas more, but was worried about that because i recently found out that i have a hemmoroid and didnt want to aggrivate it. should i substitute a swf for the classic enema until i get the hemmoroid under control? in the mean time ill be doing the cleansing drink.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you definitely don't want to be irritating a hemorrhoid so use lots of lubricant and aim away from it when you resume enemas, which can help them heal faster (salt, aloe vera). A SWF might not be a good idea if they cause you to strain. If you cn stay relaxed it should be fine.

You might want to just use a combo of Triphala and Eater's Digest Tea.

Remember, you should not be taking any cleansing agents unless your paths of elimination are working quickly and thoroughly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been takig the ala is staggered weeks for about 2 months now and alot of my psoriasis spots have returned. now it could be the time of year, but do you think it could be a detox reaction of the ala spilling out metals?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh. Taking ALA sporadically just re-poisons you. You're supposed to take it every 4 hours around the clock for 3 days in order to do it right. So just stop taking it if you're not going to take it right, you're just hurting yourself unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH dear, not good. Taking ALA sporadically just re-poisons you. You're supposed to take it every 4 hours around the clock for 3 days in order to do it right. So just stop taking it if you're not going to take it right, you're just hurting yourself unfortunately. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, i think you misunderstood what i said or i didnt say it clearly. i take it every 3-4 hours (even at night) for a week on , then i take a week off and then on and so on. thats what i meant by staggered weeks...one week on followed by a week off.

heres what it says in Cutlers book (pg. 90, upper right hand side of page)

"If you cant get DMSA or dont want to, you can just use 25-200 mg of LA every 3-4 hours. You may want to do this for a week or so and then skip a week or so."

Could this be causing my psoriasis to flare?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh whew! okay, you had me worried there! Smile I should've known you'd know better, Columbo. Forgot you had Andy's book.

Yep, the ALA can cause psoriasis to flare, most definitely. Any issues that our body is prone to will get worse as we cleanse, because of the healing crisis.

Also, when you take a powerful chelator like ALA you will mess up your mineral ratios and deplete yourself of certain nutrients. This really upsets the skin.

When psoriasis is a chronic issue, this means that your body isn't getting enough Skin Food, not sure which part of skin food but it's usually C, zinc and EFAs, OR you don't have enough stomach acids, or you need to sweat a lot more. Do more detox baths. You could have too many toxins that can only exit via sweat and they're irritating your skin.

Hope that helps! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wanted to ask you that too. Cutler lists the supplements to take while taking ala, which is vit c, mag, zinc, fish oil omega 3, selenium, vit. e, b complex, milk thistle, and i have been taking them daily during the weeks i take the ala, but should i be taking them on the off weeks aswell? i wasnt sure if the chelation was as intense during the off weeks and i could go without, or does the chelation continue even during the weeks of rest.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it doesn't continue, however, you can be left with skewed ratios after the chelation that need to be adjusted, and you can still have metals floating around that were not excreted. So it pays to protect the liver and kidneys (milk thistle and plenty of fluids) for several days after using the ALA, and to take at the very least some of the tissue rebuilding nutrients and electrolytes.

You also need to know which minerals selenium antagonizes and perhaps take those afterwards, or eat foods high in: Chromium, zinc, magnesium, Vitamin E.

Zinc I would take for at least a month out of every three or six because none of us gets enough zinc.
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