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jlogan
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: LF in the morning? Reply with quote

I am thinking about starting a LF first thing in the morning (when I say that, I mean that I want to start taking the epsom salts first thing). Is this a good idea???
Also, out of curiosity, does the formation of liver stones have something to do with the way the body stores glycogen?? Would eating too much sugar actually aid in the formation of liver stones?
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shelley
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can flush during the day no problem, it's just easier to sleep through the process than to be awake and suffer.

Stones are formed by a combination of stagnation from skipping meals and not eating fats at all, so that the bile just sits there for long periods of time (which is why fasts should include some oil), and this allows the toxins, cholesterol and bad fats from deep-fried foods and such, separate and then settle into a kind of silt and chaffe that eventually gets formed into stones as the gallbladder and liver contract.

Once this starts it is compounded by the lack of bile production due to constriction/clogged bile ducts. Bile is what breaks fats apart into tiny bits of fat - emulsifies it - so that enzymes and microbes can fully digest it. So you get a never-ending cycle until the ducts are clear again, and the bile is stripped of toxins.

bile is quickly contaminated because we reuse it. During a single meal with fats the same bile will recirculate from the liver, to gallbladder and small intestine, to the bloodstream and right back to the liver, 6 times. This is why just one meal of Kentucky Fried can haunt us for several days of pain and discomfort.

The only way to interrupt this cycle is to eat our oils with lots of fiber so that it gets trapped in the small intestine and exited out with feces. That's why a high-fiber diet lowers cholesterol, and why the cleansing salad cures acne.

Sugar is not really part of this equation of stone formation. Once stones are there, however, the liver finds it harder to do its conversion of sugar and glycogen because it is clogged, and this could lead to hypoglycemia and adult-onset diabetes. If the liver is slow to react the pancreas will keep producing insulin until all of the cells become insulin-resistant in defense.
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jlogan
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply!! I have another couple questions (I love learning about this stuff Smile) I have a nutrition class at my college, and yesterday I learned about how the pancreas secretes bicarbonate to neutralize chyme that is dropped into the intestines. I put 2 and 2 together during the lecture and formed my own little "theory" that too little bicarbonate is actually a much bigger factor in the yeast syndrome then bile (pH levels of the food are thrown off, resulting in a better environment for yeast). I studied some pictures of the liver, the gallbladder, and the pancreas, and it looks like the bicarbonate travels down the same duct that bile does. The pictures were not very clear, though, so I am wondering if this is correct and if liver stones actually do block bicarbonate to some extent? This would explain my whole yeast problem if that is the case.

My 2nd question is about the reason why regular medical tests cannot detect liver stones. I had a friend who has them really bad, and she went to see a gastroenterologist , who performed a nuclear test on her and determined that she had no gallstones. Yet, she did a liver flush and she got all kinds of junk coming out. The nuclear test she described sounded almost flawless (she had a bit of radiation injected in her, and the doctor took pictures of it as it traveled through the body). How could a test like that miss so many liver stones????
Anyways, thanks for your time (I have an unsatiable curiosity for anything pertaining to the medical field, whether it be eastern or western Smile
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shelley
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, lack of base is a huge problem. You can test that out by taking your saliva pH right before you're about to eat. A healthy person starts manufacturing the alkaline base as soon as they start salivating and the pH strip reads real high, 8+. A deficient person's pH does NOT change. I should put that in the FAQ.

So far none of the tests have showed stones properly. They are just too clumped together and made out of fats, which are semi-solid, not all that solid, so they can't be differentiated no mattr what they use.
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