Noisy liver

[Monique]

Hi Shelley!

Thanks!

I will try to do my best with this cleanse and I'll let you know how it goes

[Monique]

Hi Shelley!

Everything is screwy!
The pain in my liver started to go away, I have been drinking tons of juices.
So I thought I was ok for antoher LF before the parasite cleanse.
Well I did the LF thursday and today I am doubled in pain. My whole right chest, shoulder and right arm is in HUGE pain, I can barely sit up. Stabbing pain in my chest.

Before the darn milk thistle everything was perfect and the flushes went smoothly.

I am trying to figure out where the pain comes from, bile ducts, gallbladder or maybe the liver has swelled up and pressing on different nerves.
It's really scary, I don't want to hurt it, I want to heal it. And I need to do more LFs in the future to cure myself, this is frustrating

I think I have to delay the parasite cleanse too since the berbs are strong.

Darn it! What's a girl gonna go from here?

[Treader]

I think that you got it backwards. The Liver flushes are most likely to be rhe cause of your pain. Milk thistle helps to protect the liver. You've obviously started moving things around with the flushes. You can get pain from flushes days after doing them, and the fact that you started taking Milk Thisle just before the pain began is a coincidence IMO.

[shelley]

The pain is from the parasites, not the milk thistle. Flushing is very hard on the body, especially if you use Epsom salts, which I don't recommend, and you must must must do a colonic or deep enema afterwards or your small intestine will flare up and cause your shoulders to burn.

[Monique]

Thanks shelley! I will give the parasite cleanse a go!
Yep I do deep enemas after the LFs, very important, and fibers

Is it ok to only use like 1 tsp of epsom salt? I usually don't dare to take more becuase I hear that it's harsh


Thanks a million times for everything!!!!!

[shelley]

yes it's okay. what you do instead is very careful dissolving of the stones so you only have teensy tiny ones to deal with. all in the FAQ under liver management.

[Monique]

Parasite cleanse update:

I have been on the cleanse since (together with your parasite expulsion protocool) 21:st december.
After an enema today I saw a few pieces of rolled up "tomato skins" and lots of sesame seed shaped/kidney shaped beige-yellowish rock hard seeds. Tapeworm?

My liver pain has not subsided, but, when I drink juice mixed of carrot/beet/squash/ginger/cabbage and other things the pain subsides, very much of it. But if I stop the juices the pain comes back, It feels like a sharp abrasive object is inside twisting around. And sometimes just the whole chest hurts. And after flushing the pain is also very intense.
I will do an ultrasound in about a month, I doubt that they will find anything.
Im trying to figure out the action of the juices and the where the pain is coming from.

Thanks!

[Monique]

Shelley do you know what kind of parasite the sesame/kidney shaped, hard seeds are?

I dont know what happened tonigh but I could'nt sleep since something was pinching/biting my liver, it hurt extremely, it felt like someone pooked my liver from the inside with needles.

[Monique]

This parasite cleanse is a nightmare. They are moving and biting and migrating and it feels like I have swallowed quarts of shattered glass, poured right into my lungs, liver, pancreas, intestines. But I still don't see any visible things, apart from a very few flaky flukes and sesame seeds.

What is even worse is that parasite killing is pure science. Parasite experts say that parasites can get immune to the herbs pretty quickly if we take too strong doses for long/short time or too weak doses for long time. And also that the adults can be targeted with the herbs, wheras the larvae are much much harder to kill, almost impossible and they often manage to survive and breed stronger parasites. Its like one step forward, to steps back.
Dosage and lentgh of time taking parasite herbs is like walking on the egde of a knife, either you pass with success or fall and hurt yourself very badly.
I have rarely heard about a person that manages to kill all their parasites, I often hear that symptoms are back after while and that the next parasite cleanse is'nt bringing the good effect anymore.

Is there a way out? I have been taking "Humaworm" and I know Shelley that you once said that their amount of wormwood won't do much. http://www.humaworm.com/formula.html --> herb amount at the bottom.

Well, to tell the truth I did'nt feel anything patricurlar until I added an ozonated olive oil tincture with wormwood-clove-walnut oil in it (called Para-Rizol), then war literally broke out inside!
Whilst other expel quarts of liver flukes after just a few day on the Humaworm.

But am I now risking of creating immune parasites? This is pretty scary since there does'nt seem to be any answers to this? And it's not like with candida that you just get a good amount of acidophilus and then there is balance, parasite cleansing is just "kill kill kill". You either do it right, or wrong and if you get inbetween, not much sucess.

Any advice, input, experience to share is welcome, Im pretty confused about this cleanse and parasite science?

Thank you