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spo1977
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Oatmeal Reply with quote

I got some organic Bobs Red Mill oats.

Is it better to just eat the oats without cooking them.

Sometimes I eat them straight out of the bag and sometimes as oatmeal. Does it matter either way?
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glein
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please read this: http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/be_kind.html

Hope that helps. Smile
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chardy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best to avoid oats as the link above warns.

Shelley isnt a fan due to all the anti-nutrient compounds present.

Still, I love porridge so much that I sometimes have it as a treat after soaking the oats overnight. Indian spiced porridge is delicious!
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pumkin
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, can someone help? I'm confused about how to properly prepare and eat all types of grains now.

I have a question about even other grains other than oatmeal. I was reading the article....So does it mean that we are to soak ALL types of grains before eating?

--For example, what about Quinoa Flakes, when you want to use them to make hot cereal? I have to soak them overnight?
However, what if I choose to bake/cook with them, like in muffins or pancakes?
--And I also have Bobs Red Mill GF Might tasty Hot Cereal. Are those grains meant to be soaked overnight before eating?
--Even every type of Rice, needs to be soaked all night?

Sorry, this is tough for me to understand, I hadn't known about this before. Please help! Smile
Thank you
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glein
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The link i posted does not say to avoid oats. Just to prepair it correctly.

Personally i soak all my grains overnight. It reduces cooking time and makes them easier to digest. I also only use whole grains. As of now anyway. I think millet and rice are the safest grains to cook without cooking, containing the least antinutrients.

Go by what your body tells you. Very Happy
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shelley
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't bother soaking rice at all, can't tell a difference either way. Rice is quite easy to digest.

When it comes to hot cereals that are very finely ground like cream of wheat or Quinoa Flakes, Grits/Polenta, I don't bother soaking.

Any other type of hot cereal I bring to a boil the night before and leave in the fridge all night ready to be cooked the next day.
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pumkin
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I've been wondering about the correct soaking process.

When we have to soak either Grains, Beans, or Nuts:
~ Is it best to soak them in Warm, Hot, Cold, or Cool water?

~Do we have to cover the bowl we soak them in, and are we to leave the bowl on the countertop, or in the fridge? ... In darkness or light?

~Any water changing needed, or keep the same water the whole time?

Thank you so much for all the help;)
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LILA1963
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chardy wrote:
Best to avoid oats as the link above warns.

Shelley isnt a fan due to all the anti-nutrient compounds present.

Still, I love porridge so much that I sometimes have it as a treat after soaking the oats overnight. Indian spiced porridge is delicious!


Hi,
Do u have a special recepe for Indian spiced porridge ??
When soaking the oats i guess it's better to make sure that the oats r COMPLETELY drenched in water ??
Thanks Wink
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chardy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the recipe for spiced porridge! Its truly delicious, and very spicy Wink Very Happy I use finger chillies, but you can use whichever you wish according to how much heat you like.

Dry roast oats till they leave their white color, for few minutes.

Finely chop one small onion, three green chillies, one garlic clove and small piece of ginger.

Add one tsp of oil or ghee to a hot pan, do the popu (a blend of 1/2 tsp mustard seed, curry leaves, cumin - or to taste) then add the finely chopped vegetables, sauté them for few minutes.

For one cup of oats - add one and half cup (or two cups) of water and 1 tsp of salt. Close the lid and on high heat, bring the water to dancing stage (boil).

Now remove the lid and add oats, stirring continuously. Reduce the heat, let the oats cook, covered for about 5 to 8 minutes or till the oats absorb all the water. Add the veg + popu mix to the oats and mix in. Serve.


Above is the traditional recipe. You may add any veg you like as long as it is very finely chopped so that the oat mixture can be formed into a ball. I add finely shredded carrot / blanched or stir fried brocolli stems / peas etc etc
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LILA1963
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats sounds delicious !!! YUMMIIII
Thanks very much Chardy Very Happy
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spo1977
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks,

I guess I am not eating them raw anymore.

I usually microwave them in the morning, maybe I should put the oats and water in the fridge the night before then microwave in the morning.
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kaleidoscope
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pumkin wrote:
Hey, can someone help? I'm confused about how to properly prepare and eat all types of grains now.

I have a question about even other grains other than oatmeal. I was reading the article....So does it mean that we are to soak ALL types of grains before eating?

--For example, what about Quinoa Flakes, when you want to use them to make hot cereal? I have to soak them overnight?
However, what if I choose to bake/cook with them, like in muffins or pancakes?
--And I also have Bobs Red Mill GF Might tasty Hot Cereal. Are those grains meant to be soaked overnight before eating?
--Even every type of Rice, needs to be soaked all night?

Sorry, this is tough for me to understand, I hadn't known about this before. Please help! Smile
Thank you


I have a book called the Maker's Diet (by Jordan Rubin) that explains how to do it... I'll write it out for you.

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FOR WHOLE GRAINS: For millet, brown rice, oatmeal, amaranth, etc. soak desired amount of grain in an equal amount of water to which you've added 1 Tbsp. raw vinegar, fresh lemon juice, or plain yogurt. (Use 2-3 Tbsp. if you're cooking a large amount of grain.) Cover and let sit at room temperature for at least 7 hours, preferably longer. When ready to cook, add remaining required amount of water or stock and cook. NOTE: To soak whole-grain floursor pancake mixes, follow the same procedure as above but make sure the flour is mized well with the soaking water.

FOR RAW BEANS AND LENTILS: Soak desired amount of beans in an equal amount of water to which you've added 1 Tbsp. raw vinegar, fresh lemon juice, or plain yogurt. (Use 2-3 Tbsp. if you're cooking a large amount of beans or lentils.) Cover and let sit at room temperature for at least 7 hours, preferably longer. When ready to cook, discard soaking water; add remaining required amount of water or stock and cook.

FOR RAW NUTS AND SEEDS: Place raw nuts or seeds in a bowl, add 1 Tbsp. sea salt, and cover with water. Leave at room temperature for 6-8 hours. Drain the water. Place nuts on a cookie sheet and dry on low heat in the oven. You can also air-dry the nuts on a towel, but it take much longer to dry them this way.
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LILA1963
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it really important to cover the grains, beans ... etc ... while soaking ?? Any special reason for this ??
Thanks alot !!
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pumkin
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool thank you so much, very helpful Smile I think if I were to soak even flours, I'd feel like I'm in pioneer times!

*For the Nuts: if I want to make Nut Milk or Nut Butters,etc. is it still necessary to soak all night? I would have thought that just grinding the nuts would make them easier to digest. So I still wonder if soaking is needed beforehand.

*And I just want to make sure if the tempurature of soaking water matters at all? eg. hot, cold.
*And do you cover the bowl with only a towel/napkin or an actual fitted top or another bowl?

Thanks to everyone! <3
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kaleidoscope
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LILA1963 wrote:
Is it really important to cover the grains, beans ... etc ... while soaking ?? Any special reason for this ??
Thanks alot !!


I imagine it's just to prevent things from falling into your food!

pumkin wrote:
Cool thank you so much, very helpful Smile I think if I were to soak even flours, I'd feel like I'm in pioneer times!

*For the Nuts: if I want to make Nut Milk or Nut Butters,etc. is it still necessary to soak all night? I would have thought that just grinding the nuts would make them easier to digest. So I still wonder if soaking is needed beforehand.


There are enzyme inhibitors on nuts and seeds that are only neutralized through soaking.

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*And I just want to make sure if the tempurature of soaking water matters at all? eg. hot, cold.


Use either room temp. or slightly warm water.

Quote:
*And do you cover the bowl with only a towel/napkin or an actual fitted top or another bowl?


It doesn't need to be a fitted top. Sometimes I use plastic wrap, sometimes a plate, sometimes a pot lid if I'm soaking something in a pot.
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