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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: My Journey, still going ... Reply with quote

Its seems like I have been cleansing for years ! But I was doing it on my own to start with without the help of this great website and curezone! So my first year was a candida diet and I managed to get rid of the candida and felt about 80% better! I then attempted to alkalise but lost too much weight and stopped. I have had trouble with acne since age of 19 I am now 25, it disappeared with the help of dianette a contraceptive pill I took for 3 years! I came off it though a year ago as it wasn't helping my candida or my liver!, and slowly my acne has come back. I've spent so much on skin care products which haven't worked so decided to start cleansing from the inside!
I went to a kinesiologist who did a food intolerance test and told me what foods to avoid, which I did, along with acupuncture and Chinese medicine - reishi tablets my skin calmed down a lot and just small red pimples.
I then decided to start liver flushing to try and get rid of my acne altogether and digestive problems as well as sinus trouble and hot flushes!
I have now done 4 flushes, unfortunately my skin has got worse since flushing even though I do colonic with each one! I now get regular colonic every 2 weeks, and I had a stool test and my candida is back, so I'm starting over now!
With the advice on here and curezone, my new regime is :
Dry body brushing, yoga every morning salute to the sun and cross crawl and yoga chanting.
I drink just water and dandelion tea.
I have bought some Chinese bitters from sensible health to take before my next flush, not sure when I will flush next though, will do some slow liver management first so my acne doesn't flare from too many toxins being released!
I have started taking Epsom salt/sea salt baths. My diet is now following anti candida diet including, no wheat, dairy, and some meats, I have also cut out grains for now to see how this helps.
I have also started to try and alkalise, just by eating more greens etc.. I have yet to start the alkalising drink stated on cure zone ph forum.
I have started taking supplements, b vits 100mg, zinc citrate 30mg and digestive enzymes with each meal, also probiotics . I have started taking reishi tablets again, as these are meant to be good for the liver and immune system! I have started acupuncture again, and also find reiki helpful to deal with my depression and ocd illness.
Its quite confusing at the moment as it seems like so much, my head starts buzzing from all the info I have read! I will get there though, I feel very positive at the moment and hopeful that I will eventually be 100% healthy.
I will post my results as I go .
xxx
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HopingToGetHealthy
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Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too suffer from acne but only after my fertility treatments which pumped me up with estrogen.
I'm also going through menopause
I wrote to http://www.sensiblehealth.com and rebecca there said it sounded like i had estrogen dominance and to take chinese bitters along with coptis
she said it would flush out my estrogen dominance within a year along with flushes

i was just wondering if you wrote to them first with your symptoms or just ordered the chinese bitters without a consult

as you may have estrogen dominance and need the coptis too??

just wondering.......
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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I have endometriosis which is normally linked too an estrogen dominance, so i just ordered ! I hope they do help Smile
I have yet to start them though, will probably next week.
I have started putting manuka honey on my face for about 15 minutes everynight before i go to bed, seems to be healing the acne much faster, does bring up stuff from the pores though but hope this is just a intial clear out Smile
I only wash my face with water as everything else seems to give me more acne, don't use moisturiser either, am trying to moisturise from the inside with skin food, need to buy some cod liver oil next as shelley recommended this will help with my dry skin Smile
Have you started any liver flushes ?
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Grasshopper


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have endometriosis I would guess you'd need coptis or another form of tincture to balance out the estrogen
I'm not an expert but this is what was recommended for me
yes, i have begun liver flushes have done 8 to date
the last 4 I've rotated between the es and mc
mc seems to be much milder on my body
i've posted for shelley to get the pro's and con's of each
will be interested to hear what she has to say when she is well
many use mc only and it's been recommended in the Frahms book of cancer prevention, I believe his wife cured herself of cancer this way.
I will be doing a regular HC, ES flush tomorrow evening looking forward to it as the last 2 I used MC, you can do the MC flushes weekly according to what I've read
good luck to you Smile
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Grasshopper


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s. both the coptis and chinese bitters taste really nasty and took some getting used too Sad I also found myself getting very head achey and then read it is good to take a break from the chinese bitters every 3-4 weeks for a week due to so many toxins being released.
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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did the coptis and chinese bitters make acne worse, better or the same ?
Also sorry i'm not very good with the abbreviations yet Smile
What do HC and MC mean ?

Thanks x
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HopingToGetHealthy
Grasshopper


Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem, neither and I LOL
HC is Hulda Clark Method
MC is Magnesium Citrate
ES Epsom Salts

To be honest, I've just started with the Julia Chang tincture's. this is my 3rd week on them, I am not taking a break from the Chinese Bitters because yesterday I was in bed all day with a terrible headache and completely lethargic.

I then read the herbs over again and it said to take a break every 3-4 weeks due to the excessive toxins being released.

So, I didn't take it today.........(no headache yet Smile ) and I've had a more productive morning compared to the last few days.

so far acne is the same although much better since flushing and using epsom salts.....the ES really exfoliated a lot and the dark patches are much much lighter

I'm doing a full fledged Huda Clark flush tomorrow and hope I'll clear up a little more Smile

I emailed Julia Changs site and asked how long they thought before I cleared up my liver gallbladder kidneys----LIFE! LOL and I submitted a detailed report about myself and lab work done, etc., and rebecca replied that she felt I could reverse the damage the drugs did and that the estrogen dominance should be balanced out within a years time.

I'm hoping she is right because some women that have taken LUPRON and PERGANOL have become permanently disabled after years and years of long illnesses.

I contacted one woman after doing a search and I read some of the articles she wrote about LUPRON. She actually spoke before congress as to the dangers, tried suing in the court system both to no avail., she said they are supressing it and continue to treat women for infertility and endometriosis with LUPRON also stem cell research they will be using these drugs on women. VERY SCAREY. Since taking them my life has not been the same. January of 2003 was the last dose and since then I have been unable to hold a job where I used to be a district manager and very productive. I spent over a year bedridden. I thank God once I had the wherewithall to do searches on the computer I found this site and Julia changs and curezone. I first started with chlorella and gradually built up to taking 20grams daily for a year........this and bio-chelat and clay baths got me out of bed and detoxed my system, I then started with the liver flushes, the chlorella acted as a parasite and bowel cleanse. I loved chlorella and felt really good on it but then Rebecca at julia changs site said that the beta carotene in it can convert to estrogen and that women in menopause shouldn't take anything estrogenic which chlorella and flax oil apparently are they were really helping me with the hot flahses and discomforts of menopause along with progesterone cream.
So, I stopped using these things and shelley recommended I take zinc and potassium so, I've been doing that along with rebecca's suggestions for C and B vitamins.....shelley said she didn't think i needed more flushes just liver maintenance, however, I feel more comfortable doing a few more because of the high amounts of stones still being released and I know how much poison those drugs placed into my organs so I will continue to flush awhile and then do the liver maintenance that shelley suggests. also, I am new to this site and to all the vatta, ayurvedic body types and don't quite understand them all or what I am so I wasn't able to describe more about myself to shelley in a way she is accustomed. BRAIN FOG! Hopefully, I'll figure that our one of these days and re post so she can help me further.
take care
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HopingToGetHealthy
Grasshopper


Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good News!
Just got my blood work back from the dr's office and all of my blood work was in the normal range
this hasn't happened in the last 3 years
especially my insulin and thyroid were really messed up after the treatments
so the flushes are working!
i just need to be patient now and keep flushing until my weight, acne, fuzzy thining and energy return
but it is a happy day!
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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Happy Times :) Reply with quote

Hoping to get healthy i am very happy for you Smile Thanks for the info too, i now understand Smile lol
It great when you see results !! It gives you encouragement to keep flushing, and i will definatley be flushing soon!
I have seen an improvement in my skin on body as in softness, since starting dry skin brushing - i love the feeling makes skin tingle! I do it morning and night now. Since eating much more skin food skin above my elbow on arm is much softer as explained by shelley that this is a good sign!
I am going out for my birthday tomorrow night, as i'm on struct candida diet no alcohol for me , oh well Sad xx
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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things i have noticed today, i used to suffer from rosacea but it went away totally after first few flushes, i think its slowly coming back though which usually means anothe liver flush may be in need! My chin gets dry and red and itchy with few little spots. My skin has felt dryer too lately which is a sign of it coming back and just a generally uncomfortable feeling. But it could be from the manuka honey i use every night as a face mask, but i don't want ot stop this as it is helping old spots heal and red scars heal and draws all the gunk from the skin, it makes my cheeks soft too Smile
So i may flush sooner than i though to help with my rosacea flushing.
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HopingToGetHealthy
Grasshopper


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm flushing tonight
to be honest, I got eally big stones on my 4th flush, grape sized and hundreds
after that my sinus opened up
but my 5th-8th flushes I felt worse than ever and began to question it all
emotionally I was down
headachey
lethargic
more pimples instead of less
but then i read that the liver controls emotions and it was normal but to keep going
I took my blood tests for the first time in 3 mos last week
got the results yesterday and as i posted all was normal! for the firs time in 3 years!
so, although I have some acne and drained emotions, lack of energy and the weight is still on.......I know that finally my body is healing itself and I was sooooo happy and I just know in my heart that if I continue to flush the rest of my ailments, in time, will disappear, it will take time and effort on my part but these were the biggest results i've had in a long long time so I will continue as my body heals itself and the rest will come in time.
it's like peeling the layers of an onion and once i get less and less stones then I will follow shelleys suggestion to stop flushing and do liver maintenance or I will make my flushes farther apart and do the maintenance inbetween because on the julia chang tinctures i am taking they recommend flushing to get all the accumulated toxins out from the tinctures.
Happy Birthday Dear and Just think......by next year you'll be celebrating with a glass of wine and Clear Skin!!! Smile
all the best,
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Monique
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Moreless alkalizing drink Reply with quote

Hello!

Im also at the candida battle, arrh!

I saw that you mentioned Moreless alkalizing drink, and I have also thought about that (have all the ingredients), but Im soo "scared" about the molasses.
What's your take on the drink?

Moreless is great by the way, smart man! Smile

Thanks!

//Mon
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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks i can't wait to be healthy !! Smile xx I am postive i'll get there!
I will enjoy my birthday on sparkling mineral water !

Good luck on your flush ! xx I bet it will be great Smile

The alkalizing drink sounds great i am slightly worried also about the molasses, shelley said it should be fine, but some people find it not so, i suppose i will just have to try it! I am also worried about the kelp as the iodine content could either help or make acne worse. I think i will just go for it and see Razz

How are you finding the candida diet, i struggle as i have lost a lot of weight over the last year and ahalf through cleansing, i am eating so may avacados just to try and keep the weight on ! Smile
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HopingToGetHealthy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I have the opposite problem as you........
sure wish i could lose weight
I was 130lbs before the injections and blew up to 220 lbs
so far that hasn't changed in spite of only eating 1,400-1,600 calories a day and taking a 1 hour walk Sad
but i hope this will change in the future
the flushes seem to be working for me but I just got off of moreless's site along with this one and I have many many questions in my mind to sort out now.....i guess i'm confused......they don't recommend flushing much at all so i have a lengthy email into sensible health and a few friends.....for guidance
i don't want to mess myself up but I'm getting such positive results by doing this??
so confused now.......too much information.......i guess.
the alkalizing drinks do make sense in between flushes.......

ahhhh, time to take a break and think

Monique---were you adressing me or sariewarie??? sorry!

take care
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sariewarie
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So its confirmed, candida is back !

I actually went to a Kinesiologist at the weekend, she tested me on supplements and body check, she confirmed my candida has come back and that my bowel and liver are blocked.
She gave me the following supplements to take:
vit e
b vit 100mg
mag - cal, but it has more mag than cal, she said I was very low on mag! which might be why I was feeling so depressed?! 1 with each meal
probiotics - flora synergy 2 with each meal
digestive enzymes 1 with each meal
zinc citrate 30mg

She also tested me on food sensitivities, the following came up :
citrus fruits all
nuts,
sugar
yeast
dairy
molasses
apple cider
reishi mushrooms - I had been taking these tablets to boost my immune system but looks like they where making my situation worse

So I have to cut these foods out as well as following the candida diet! I was hoping to take the alkalising drink to start alkalising but I can't have most of the ingredients
I will carry on dry skin brushing which I love, and having regular colonic's

I really need to start doing regular exercize again, but just don't want to loose anymore weight Sad
I may just do some slow yoga, but shelley says we must sweat for our lymphs,.
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