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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: My dismal attempt at liver flushing |
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I'm so bummed. I attempted my first liver flush last night. I was all prepared. I've done bowel cleansing. I took stone dissolvers and bile cleansers for the past 10 days, ate clean and light. I ate only apples, apple juice and steamed veggies the day of the flush. Didn't eat anything after 2. Drank lots of peppermint and ginger tea.
I took 1 TB of ES in some apple juice at 6. That went fine.
Took the OO/GF mixture at 9 and 9:30. Sucked on peppermint candy, layed in bed. Several hours later, I puked it all up.
Then this morning, I figured I'd do a SWF just in case. That was horrid! About 20 minutes after I downed it, I puked that up too.
Sigh. Now I just feel worn out, depleted, and I accomplished nothing. |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Okay! Update. After puking up the SWF, I felt awful. I took a couple emergen-cs, and then ate some oatmeal. After the oatmeal, my tummy started to grumble and I went to the toilet and lo and behold, a few stones, maybe 10, mostly pea-sized, but 1 the size of a cherry.
That renewed my faith, so this afternoon, I did a colema and got out a bunch more, maybe a bit more than 50 or so, plus a bunch of black stuff the size and shape of rice. Anybody know what that is?
I have to say, quite an ordeal from start to finish, but I feel good that I finally completed one after reading about them for so long. I am going to keep doing them every several weeks for awhile, but if anybody has any advice on how to not throw-up, I'll take it! |
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h0ppy Moderator
Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 406 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I'm happy you at least got some stones out, despite all the puking. lol. Peppermint always works for me. In fact, I picked some up today because I'm flushin!
I don't know what the black rice thingies were. Maybe it was something you ate the day before? Did you clean yourself out before the flush? I've had a few black stones, so I could've been that. |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I sucked relentlessly on peppermint candies. I have a few things I think I'll try next time. I might do one OO dose in the p.m. and one in the a.m. Isn't that how you do it? I figure that might be less overwhelming for my system. Also I think I'll juice some ginger and take it with the OO dose, and sip ginger tea afterwards. Ginger has always come through for me when I've been nauseous in the past - not LF, but while seasick.
At least I got stones out. If I hadn't, it would be really hard to do it again. |
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h0ppy Moderator
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Wait, so do you drink a whole cup of OO at night? That would probably make me puke.
Yeah, I do Hulda's alternative flush where you take one at night, and then one in the morning. |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I basically did Shelley's version which is a whole cup of OO at night split up into 2 doses 1/2 an hr apart. Only thing I did different than her protocol was take one dose of ES a couple hrs before the oil. And I took the oil at 9 and 9:30, whereas she says to do it at 11/11:30.
So do you do all the epsom salts that Hulda Clark says to do?
Do you do a SWF? I think I may try Denise's method and take a bottle of magnesium citrate as the SWF was definately the worst part.
What time in the a.m. do you do the second dose and then how long afterwards do you do a SWF or something similar? Sorry for all the
?s...just trying to gather info to make the next one as painless as possible. |
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h0ppy Moderator
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I take 1 tablespoon of ES two hours before the first OO/GF. In the morning, it's the same thing, but I usually take the ES around 8 or 9. I don't do SWFs, I always get a colonic. What can I say, I'm lazy. lol. |
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kaleidoscope Confident Contributor
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Do you do a SWF? I think I may try Denise's method and take a bottle of magnesium citrate as the SWF was definately the worst part. |
CJB, I asked you this over on Acne.org, but I don't know if you saw it. Did you use 2 tablespoons of salt for the SWF? Because 2 tablespoons made me throw up, but 1 tablespoon works well for me.
But why don't you just do a colema or get a colonic? |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:34 am Post subject: |
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I used 2 TB. I did do a colema also, and will probably always do those in the future. Can't get colonics day after flushes because I have to flush on Fri nights and can't get in to get one until Tuesdays. If I could, I'm sure I'd take the lazy route too, h0ppy.
So I am going to get a colonic tomorrow, but still need to do something the day after the flush. |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Liver flush #2
I just completed it. I did a couple of things differently and I didn't vomit this time. YAY! I only took one 1/2 cup dose of the OO, and I juiced some ginger and mixed it in there. I sat up in bed for about an hour and sipped strong ginger tea. Then I kept a cup of ginger tea beside my bed all night and each time I would even start to feel nauseous, I would take a few sips. It worked like a charm
However, I only got out about 10 stones, all tiny. I did a colema. I'm starting on Colonix because I'm pretty darn sure I have parasites and I want to do some more thorough bowel cleansing and see if I can't get to the plaque. So maybe I'll see some more come out in the next couple of days.
I'm thinking the small number of stones could be because of one of two things 1) I didn't wait long enough since my last flush - it's only been 2 weeks, but I'm impatient! or 2) the smaller dose of oil. However, I looked at some other recipes that only call for 1/2 cup.
Oh well, I think I'll wait a month before I go for it again |
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kaleidoscope Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Hey,
I only use 1/2 cup of oil. (Even with that, I throw up, so I would never use more!) On my second flush I got out between 50 and 100 small stones a few bigger ones. So I'm sure that 1/2 cup is fine... it's just that every flush will be different.
Did you notice any changes in your skin right after your liver flushes? Even though I got out quite a few stones on my last flush, my skin didn't clear up that much... only a little bit. I guess I was expecting more drastic results. But I know that 2 flushes isn't much... |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Kaleidoscope,
Good to know that 1/2 a cup works for you. That's what the Hulda Clark recipe calls for, unless you do the alternate version and take another dose in the a.m. I considered it, but I didn't want to. I don't think it would have resulted in more stones. I'm pretty sure I just didn't wait long enough since the last flush. I felt my liver/gallbladder contracting during the night, so I'm sure it dumped out what it could.
Hey, the ginger thing worked great for me for the nausea. I could feel it coming on several times and I just sipped the tea and it went away.
Skinwise, it's so hard to know because due to diet, I don't really get big zits anymore. I just have lots of tiny clogged pores and bad skintone, which haven't changed (yet) with liver flushing. However, after the 1st flush, I did eat a few things that would normally break me out and they didn't, so that's a good sign. |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Liver flush #3
It's been 3 weeks since my last one.
I pretty much juice fasted the day of, except I had kefir and blueberries for breakfast.
At 7, I took 1TB of ES in some apricot nectar (that helped with taste immensely)
I did one dose of OO at 9:00 and then a 1/2 dose at 9:30
I sipped the ginger tea again, between doses, after the second dose and then kept a cup of it by my bed to sip when I felt any nausea and I didn't puke. YAY.
I definitely felt my gallbladder contracting during the night.
Do most people get stones out right away in the morning? I woke up and I felt like something should be HAPPENING, with all that contracting I felt last night. But nothing was, so I did two enemas, and didn't see a single stone. Then I ate, so now I'm waiting until later this afternoon to do more enemas. It's gonna suck if I don't get any stones AGAIN! |
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cjb Confident Contributor
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: |
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So I did 4 enemas yesterday, 2 in the am and 2 in the evening, and I saw nothing, no chafe, nothing. I know stuff could come out later, but I sort of freaked, because I just felt like it was stuck inside me. So I called my colon hydrotherapist and she's so great, she told me to come in today (Sunday).
So I fasted on juice and smoothies again today and went in for the colonic this afternoon and got out a bunch of junk. The thing about a colonic is that it's hard to see exactly how many stones, but I definitely got some out along with some green slime..ew. Feeling much better now. |
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h0ppy Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| Colonics rule! |
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