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Abraham
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Non-albicans candida Reply with quote

I'll try to keep this short... some history then some questions. I've heard the name Shelley mentioned with some respect so I'm very interested in your opinion.

1.5 years ago I had sex with a girl that had a "yeast infection" and my penis glans turned white right afterwards. Then the burning and stabbing pains started, crawled up my urethra and went on a rampage through my genital tract. I believe I started on this disease before this point though, I overate and had a bad diet and lifestyle and had migratory glossitis (tongue sores) and diarrhea for a year prior. Doctors gave my antibiotics, 8 kinds for 6 months, I didn't know better, I rested, I got very sick. It spread through my intestines, colonized my mouth and went into my chest. I was getting worse and worse and the doctors then gave up on me around the time I did the same for them. Strict diet and excercise in the last 6 months has seen maybe 10% improvement if that. I've also tried all kinds of antifungals and cleanses and given up on them because they don't work as well as veggies and excercise. What I have DOESNT produce thick white patches AT ALL, or anything ON the skin. On skin it tingles only, and when bad it gets red and itchy, but this is minor. THe main thing is that it turns mucous membranes whitish (roof of mouth, gums, penis) and causes stabbing pains and a dull ache. It irritates tissue and after a long time it seems to weaken tissue so sores happen easily. I have stretch marks on my inner thigh because it's weakened the skin, I've ripped my foreskin because the skin is so weak and damaged. I have dark circles around my eyes and I'm very weak. I get headaches often, my gums ache and bleed even though I take VERY good care of my teeth.

I don't believe this is C Albicans, so my question is to ask about any information on non-albicans candida? I did pass a large mass of ropy white threads attached to intestinal mucosa, this was hard to mistake for anything but a fungus, I've grown fungus and I'm interested in mycology so I know mycelial fungus when I see it! The only other thing I can imagine is a mycoplasma infection of which candida is a confusing symptom rather than the underlying cause. I've tried to get tested for both but wonderful canadian health care turned out to not be so wonderful. Do any strains of candida present like this? I assume they aren't all "classic" candida yeast symptoms, red itchy skin and white patches.
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shelley
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far everything you've said is typical of a severe systemic candidiasis. Not everyone gets the bumpy white patches type of thrush, they will instead get whitish areas, or red itchy skin, that's all candida but as you say may not be just albicans. Ringworm is a fungal too, after all, and there are many others.

Candida albicans does grow into a stalk when it goes virulent, into the rhyzome stage. Rhyzome stage yeasts are able to punch holes and start sores, ulcers, and then usually something else, usually a protozoa or bacteria like H. Pylori, will then be opportunistic and take over. And all that is combined with nutritional deficiencies. And you may have come into contact with giardia or chlamydia, to name just two out of many! It does sound like you got a one-two punch, and not just candida.

Did you ever find out why you had diarrhea for a year? I mean, goodness! That's an awful long time. You must have been reinfecting yourself? That alone is reason enough to have ulcers in the mouth.

Usually when people can see ropy white strings coming out of them the larger parasites are involved or there's an impaction of mucoid placque. There's some reason that that much yeast was able to colonize like that. Until that's all gone you won't be able to recover. I don't know what cleanses you did but further cleansing will be necessary. But since it does appear that you're dealing with all the different microbes - fungus, bacteria, protozoa and maybe even a virus - you're going to have to extremely thorough. Lymph, liver, bowel, kidney, colonics, enemas, frequent sweating, probiotics, mostly cooked foods prepared with pungent spices, H202 therapy, Perelandra's microbial balancing program ... I'd have to see a picture of your tongue to know for sure of course.
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Abraham
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have diarrhea for a year actually, it was recurring monthly for a year, lasted a couple days usually. Stools tests and everything, no diagnosis, just like all my other problems. The pain and cramping were continued till a few months ago and the girl that I had sex with developed the same thing, I think it was the fungus attacking the intestinal wall.

I've had 6 chlamydia tests and many giardia, if it's commonly tested for I don't have it.

I've been colon cleansing with psillium seed and enemas. Used to do some juice fasting but I've lost too much weight now. Used to do liver flushes but they made me very sick and I'm not convinced they're safe or helpful. I'm concentrating now on cleaning my bowels with a good diet, lots of fiber and occasional enemas. I sweat often, drink a ton of water, excercise often.

Heres my tongue:

http://142.165.246.187/tongue.jpg

Thanks for your time to help me!
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Abraham
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I was going to mention that my tongue has grooves on the side from my teeth, and you can faintly see the little bumpy papules on teh very back. I used to have quite a problem with migratory glossitis, round red denuded patches with fissures, ringed in white that would grow larger than fade, apparently a common response of the tongue to all kinds of pathogens and irritation. After the diet and lifestyle change I no longer have these sores.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! the picture is really helpful. Smile

Enemas are great, but just plain psyllium is not. Fiber must be accompanied by herbs, and should be a fiber combination that is mucilogious (sp?) - moist and glooey. Psyllium actually ferments a little and if taken all by its lonesome tends to turn into cement. The colonicists I've spoke to say stay away from it because they've had to dig so much out of people.

Be sure to read the post in the FAQ about leaky gut. You do have some marks on the tongue that suggest gut permeability. Otherwise I think you're really close to conquering this, you just need to adjust what you eat and how you eat it.

Your intestines aren't really strong enough for raw salads right now unless they are pulp/grated salads like the cleansing carrot salad (recipe in FAQ). Veggie Juices are too cold for you unless they are warmed up with garlic, ginger, cayenne or literally warmed up on the stove. Liquid Chlorophyll is a great way to get the benefits of veggies without the coldness. It's great added to enema solutions too.

You should be drinking one Protein Shake (see FAQ for recipe) with extra eggs a day. You may want to use coconut oil instead of flax.

You should be taking in probiotics of some kind - supplements of live acidophilus, kefir, fermented veggies, raw organic apple cider vinegar.

You need LOTS of broths of all kinds - Bieler, Potassium, chicken or turkey bone broth, even some beef bone broth occasionally.

Teeth marks on the tongue indicate poor absorption. It would be a good idea to take some of the broth as a nutritional retention enema. Keep up with the digestive enzymes.

Your spleen needs more help than your liver, so yeah, no more liver flushing. Just get plenty of good oils and what I call skin food. For the spleen, you mostly need skin food, eat warm cooked foods, salt water enemas, and do plenty of lymph management. Massages, saunas, exercise, rebounding, dry skin brushing, chamomile/peppermint tea, cayenne tincture, do everything you can to keep your circulation going and body heat high. Take your temperature regularly and make sure it is at least 98.2 F. If it tends to fall more than a degree in the mornings you might want to take Armour.

Don't ever drink iced drinks. When you recover fully you can occasionally have them, but apart from meals. You can't afford to have a cold stomach. Be sure to read in the FAQ the guidelines to good digestion.

Be sure to cycle your protocol a bit. For about 3 days out of 2 weeks do toning and tightening - aloe vera juice is great for that.

And H202 therapy would take care of any anearobic bacteria that are giving you trouble, so be sure to research into that. It's risky in that food-grade H202 can burn a hole right thru tissue if it isn't diluted properly, but it really really works and in your case I think it would help.

Since the diarrhea was sporadic, did you do any elimination/rotation diet work to see if a certain food was adding to the problem? allergy tests of any kind?

Hope that helps! Smile
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Abraham
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much, it's good to get some advice from someone that's spent so much time learning as you obviously have, and almost everything you say I agree with from the research I've done.

So... most of what you say I've been doing for several months, and some (protein shake, animal broth, chlorophyl) I'm going to start with.

I eat a lot of raw salad and usually see it undigested, especially seeds when it comes out. I'll start minimizing that and eating more steamed veggies. I also drink a lot of veggie juice, and coincidentally I use all the spices you mentioned AND heat it (hot V8 style cocktail).

I make a lot of fermented foods and I've found they really help so I'm going to increase that and decrease these probiotic pills because I think they do 1/2 the job for 10 times the price.

From what I've read I don't trust H2O2 to be safe. It may be when used correctly but I'm not willing to take the risk.

I didn't investigate the sporadic diarrhea because I didn't care, my gut was a garbage disposal and I mistreated it, now I'm paying for it. I still have the same problem and now I have tried elimination diet and found some foods that set it off, but I think it's due to candida or other pathogens that enjoy the food not my bodys intolerance to it.
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shelley
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good! keep in touch and let us know how it goes. Smile
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