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joejo72 New Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Erie, PA
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:40 am Post subject: Passing mucous? |
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Hi All...
I've been going through a really bad phase of die off for the past month. I've been fighting candida for the past 13 years and this time its bad. I binged really bad for the past 3 months and decided last month to get back on the diet. With Shelley's suggestions I've totally cut out oll sugars and yeasts, have only been eating greens, brown rice, fish, pork, etc... Added tons of Vit. C, B, and Chlorophyll. I've also been taking Diflucan (only about 25-30mg...anything more and I go nuts with the die-off). My constipation has totally gone away and am starting to feel better (I was going through massive depression with some anxiety, white tongue off and on which changes day to day, lethargic, etc...). Shelley did recommend enemas and tonight I gave myself one. I'm a little concerned due to quite a bit of mucous coming out with a extremely slight hint of blood. Is this normal? I did use a saline Fleet enema if that helps. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Joe |
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7087 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:41 am Post subject: |
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could be your problem is mostly mucous and not candida. Lots of mucous can be due to several factors:
not enough stomach acids or eating large meals that exhaust your supply of stomach acids, or too much cold food and mucous-producing foods
not enough skin food so the body produces more mucus to protect the weakened skin
parasites irritating the intestines.
Take a good look at your tongue, that is how your intestines look. If your tongue looks fine then you probably have parasites. If your tongue looks slick and shiny, or has jagged cracks or deep grooves, then you're lacking skin food. If it has a coat on it, white, black or yellow, then you have congestion. |
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joejo72 New Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Erie, PA
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: Thanks Shelley!!! |
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My tongue has a white film over it and the very back has a thick white coat with (what I believe is) inflamed taste buds. These taste buds look raised and swollen. The strange thing is my tongue 2 weeks ago was totally covered and is very slowly turning pink again but the back stays thick coated. From day to day it changes, sometimes better sometines worse. It's not cracked or jagged at all. Any insight? Also, what do you mean by "skin food"?
Thanks again and "great site!!"
Joe |
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Troy McClure Confident Contributor
Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 196 Location: Springfield
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm a little concerned due to quite a bit of mucous coming out with a extremely slight hint of blood. Is this normal? |
Yes this is entirely normal for someone with candida. The "mucous" membrane is where the candida lives. So you are not getting out mucous per se, but candida infected mucous.
Normal mucous is clear/colourless, but candida infected mucous is white.
The hint of blood is entirely normal too - it is where the candida has turned rhizomal and has punched holes through your gut wall.
What kind of enema did you do? Presumably you used vinegar?? |
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joejo72 New Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Erie, PA
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: Thanks for the feedback |
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I really appreciate both your input here. It's really a hard thing to go through when you're on a emotional rollercoaster but you're info gives me hope that I'm doing the right things.
Thanks again,
Joe |
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7087 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks Shelley!!! |
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| joejo72 wrote: | My tongue has a white film over it and the very back has a thick white coat with (what I believe is) inflamed taste buds. These taste buds look raised and swollen. The strange thing is my tongue 2 weeks ago was totally covered and is very slowly turning pink again but the back stays thick coated. From day to day it changes, sometimes better sometines worse. It's not cracked or jagged at all. Any insight? Also, what do you mean by "skin food"?
Thanks again and "great site!!"
Joe |
The very back, the part that is really your throat, will tend to stay coated. Just look at the part o fthe tongue that is easily seen for tongue diagnosis.
On the days the coat is worse, think back to what you ate the day before. Could be you just didn't prepare the foods properly with plenty of heating, pungent spices.
Skin food is a term I use a lot. There's a post in the FAQ that explains it, it's all the super-foods and vitamins that feed the tissues and glands. Eggs, cod liver oil, etc. |
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Abraham New Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've passed a fair bit of mucous with enemas as well as blood. I agree that candida can invade the intestinal wall and cause the blood. From my experience mucous will be yellow and slimy, I've passed some fairly large chunks of intestinal mucosa and it's not hard to diferentiate from candida, which is bright pearl white when not mixed with stool. Mucous is generally the body's defense against something irritating or attacking it, so excess in the intestines is probably because the body is trying to protect itself from something nasty, i.e. candida.
I've found one of the most helpful things I've ever done to be a garlic/vinegar enema folllowed by a good rinse and then a yogurt enema (fresh homemade, still hot). Hold it an hour, then another, hold it for several hours. The first time I did this it caused a massive amount of gas and then for the next week my stools were textbook perfect and well formed and I had less pain. |
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joejo72 New Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Erie, PA
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: One last question... |
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Thanks again for the feedback. I do however have one more question. Im having trouble taking my usual probiotic (PB8). Every time I take it I get really bad die-off. I was taking 2 a day up until about 2 months ago. Now I get a reaction to even to a 1/3 cap. Any suggestions to get the good stuff back in me without the crisis? I did buy some Lifeway Foods Kefir but I don't know if thats as good as the PB8 and I don't know how much to take. Im still new to all this.
Thanks again,
Joe |
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shelley Editor in Chief
Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 7087 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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No commercial probiotic beats Kefir. Kefir has a wide variety of friendlies and calcium to boot.
If your symptoms have alleviated a lot, then it's best to go slow with adding new friendlies to your colonies. Once your colonies stabilize adding tons of new ones all at once causes a major healing crisis because so much equalization must happen. If there's no need for major supplementation make things easier on yourself and them. Just go for the kefir and start adding other fermented foods to your diet, like raw apple cider vinegar. |
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