epson salt or not....

[peter]

hi

i often read a the internet that it's possible to do the liverflush without epson salt. i also read about, that epson salt weakens the kidneys. and the pain in my kidneys after my first flush could be a sign of that.
i don't know. i followed the clark protocol and i'll dó it again, but perhaps without the epson salt.

but i'm afraid of doing it without epson salt because i don't know the results of this.
especially i think its a problem, that the stones does not come out of the bowel so fast. and also the liver would not be relaxed. ok, i could use magnesiumcitrat instead, but this doesn't have the same effect i think.


so is it really possible to do the flush without epson salt? what are the effects? what are the pros and cons? where i have to look for, when i do it without? are there some side-effects? does it lower the results?

thanks a lot.
peter

[peter]

Hi

When i want to follow the clark protocole, can i add more water to the ES?
Because I think, one of the main problemes of feeling bad after a flush is the absence of water. So how many water (ml) I can drink after the ES?
Because I read that after 14 o clock you don’t have to eat and drink anything.

Perhaps I try a later flush without ES, but now I’m still afraid. Because, your biles are not relaxed when you do it without ES, or? Is this not a problem?

Also it’s a problem that you don’t see the stones coming out after the flush, because the bowel is not empty. Isn’t it also a problem?

So is there really an alternative to ES or can I easilie avoid it.

Whats a salt water flush?

I would be very glad when somebody write something to this, because after my first flush I got kidney pain, perhaps because of the ES. And I want to do my second flush this week. So I would be nice to have this infos before.

Thanks a lot
peter

[HopingToGetHealthy]

Julia Changs site has one listed using bentonite clay. I have never used it personally.
I have used HC with ES and the easy flush using MC, both of these yielded stones.


http://www.sensiblehealth.com

[HopingToGetHealthy]

you can drink plent of water during the flush as long as it is not 20 minutes before or 20 minutes after taking the ES
I put my ES into empty capsules and have no taste whatsoever then I drink my apple juice or grapefruit juice and drink plenty of water in between
i've never had a problem

i do recommend taking the HCl and the L-ornithine (I take and I've never puked, and I always sleep through the night this way.

[Frantz]

You don't have to use epsom salts. I have now done 25 flushes and never used.

My current protocol is:

- an enema before the flush
- SWF first thing in the morning
- an enema a few hours after that

[peter]

hi all,

thanks a lot for your tipps....

[stacirae]

Thanks for posting your protocol franz, I detest the espsom salts. They give me nothing but pain and grief whenever I have used them. I will try your way next time I flush.

Staci

[Frantz]

[stacirae]

I will look for that next time I go to walmart, thanks Frantz!

May I ask how often you do your flushes? I remember you said you have done over 20, right? Wow! Thats alot! I have only done 8 and because the epsom salts were so hard on me I fully dread doing any more. I detest them now just because of the epsom salts. I never want to use them again if I do not have to! They make me feel so weak and gaunt afterwards and they make my kidneys hurt so much. I have heard that people say they do not affect the kidneys but I beg to differ.

Thanks again!
Staci

[peter]

hi frantz,

where did you come from?
i think magnesium citrat is easy to get...

according the SWF, i thought you have to drink a whole litre....so how many is neccessary 250 ml?

isn't the relaxation of the bile ducts important before the flush?
i'm afraid of not taking any kind of magnesium before...

peter