Why do enemas/colonics cause so much pain?

[balancedbeauty]

Hi,
I've been doing coffee and salt water enemas for about 6 months, and got about 8 colonics done. With my own enemas, I just have a bag which I fill up a few times, and retain the coffee mixture. Currently, I do a coffee or salt water enema about once a week, and every time that I ever do one, my insides hurt for at least the whole day, sometimes longer. Like burning, tightening, aching, nauseaus, and hungover belly feeling. So I never eat much, and it takes me a few days to feel OK again.
Why? what am i doing wrong?
thanks,
Anna

[Troy McClure]

A few questions:
1. When you do the coffee enema, how far up do you take it, and how much do you take in at a time?
2. How much salt do you add to your salt-water enema, how much water do you use, and most importantly what temperature is the water?

[balancedbeauty]

Well, I am not sure how high I take it, probably not even the whole colon. Only one bag of coffee (i think that's like 2 quarts maybe?)
I know that when I got colonics done, the water got into the small intestines, and those always hurt a lot afterwards too.

I use about 2 teaspoons of salt per enema bag, iti tastes salty. I usually use just one bag of salt water.

The temperature is warm so that I can put my finger in and not feel like its burning. Sometimes I think the water cools down too much by the time it goes in.


Thanks,
Anna

[shelley]

can you send in a picture of your tongue? Or at least describe it carefully? It sounds like you're much to inflamed to do colonics/enemas for now and need to do some soothing therapy, such as aloe vera juice, flax seed tea and marshmallow root. Find out what you're allergic to and avoid it.

[Troy McClure]

[h0ppy]

For the right water temperature, try dipping your elbow in.

[Invincible]

Thanks for the great information Troy!

[shelley]

yeah, I use my elbow. Pleasantly warm to the elbow is a good, safe temperature, and like Troy says, I tend to start out with very hot water and then use cold until I get the temperature where I want it.

[Troy McClure]

The old elbow trick - every mum's favourite! And very accurate.

The only time I get the temperature wrong is when I deviate from my normal practice (mixing very hot with cold water). Heating the water to exactly the right temperature is too hit-and-miss - at least with my kettle!

The other thing which can throw me is if I delay between heating the water and taking the enema.

The thing I don't get about coffee enemas is what happens to the bile? Presumably 90% of it gets reabsorbed at the end of the small intestine (as normally happens to bile). In which case a far more sensible thing to do would be to take a fibre shake about an hour beforehand. That way when the bile comes out it gets bound to the fibre and carried out.

I'd also like to know if doing coffee enemas has any benefit over-and-above taking oils. Coffee enemas form a big part of Gerson therapy, but Gerson therapy specifically excludes fats/oils. I suspect that coffee enemas don't do anything more than taking oils would. I'll try one soon and report back on my experiences.

Anyone doing enemas should try and get familiar with human anatomy. It could save your life. Enemas are generally safe, but people have died performing enemas incorrectly - either puncturing the colon (which can lead to serious infection), or performing too many without taking in enough water/electrolytes. Again this can kill.

The colon is a wonderful piece of anatomy - of which the sigmoid is a particularly interesting part. Why is there this feedback mechanism (which doesn't exist in other parts of the colon) where toxins are taken directly to the liver to be processed?

One possibility is that the rest of the colon is protected by a mucous membrane, which presumably the sigmoid isn't. I just found out recently that the distribution of mucous secreting cells varies along the colon. In particular the cecum (begining of the colon) doesn't have any/many mucous secreting cells. One upshot of this is that if you have candida, candida from this part of the colon will be very thin, like a snake skin - and devoid of mucous. However candida in the rest of the colon is thickly covered in mucous.

[shelley]

what supposedly happens to the bile/toxins is that they bind to the alkaloids in the coffee and are taken out with the coffee.

alkaloids are a plant chemical, here's one definition:

Alkaloids occur naturally in nature. They are nitrogen-containing compounds that are alkaline when in solution. We taste them as "bitter." They exert a physiological presence. Nicotine and caffeine are alkaloids.

I bet a combination of some of Gerson's therapies (coffee enemas, juicing) plus Dr. Bruddig's (flax oil plus cottage cheese to oxygenate the body) would be very powerful. If I had cancer, that's what I would do.

[Troy McClure]

> what supposedly happens to the bile/toxins is that they bind to the alkaloids in the coffee and are taken out with the coffee.

So what you are saying is that the alkaloids help remove toxins from the liver into bile.

But even then these toxins would be in the bile. Now what happens to this bile? It gets chugged out of the liver/gallbladder and travels down the small intestine where 90% of it is reabsorbed. Unless you have some fibre along the way for it to bind to.

I found a great article on coffee enemas which answers some key questions:
http://healingdeva.com/coffee_enemas.htm.

[Troy McClure]

Just found an even better article:
http://www.getalife.net.au/cancer/enema_html

[Troy McClure]

[balancedbeauty]

Thank you for all of this info. I have read things that said to take in lots of coffee, to go as high as possible. Maybe that is why I always felt kind of shaky and caffeinated afterwards even though it is not supposed to be absorbed into the blood stream the same way.

Shelley, you had asked about my tongue suggesting maybe I am too inflamed. I don't have a camera right now, but I can describe it. There is one thick groove down the middle, stopping about 1/2 inch from the tip. there is a horizontal groove bisecting it a little in from the end of the big groove. It is pinkish, a little bit of white coating towards the back in the morning. bumpy. No tooth marks. Hope this helps?

Anna

[Troy McClure]

bb,
I have to appologise to you. There seems to be a lot of confusion and controversy surrounding coffee enemas. Specifically there is contradictory advice on how high they are supposed to go. Some people say only the sigmoid. Gerson (and followers) say that they should go all the way to the transverse colon.

Given the physiology of the colon, my guess is that much of the absorption takes place in the sigmoid. However that doesn't exclude the possibility of more being absorbed higher up the colon.

I certainly need to find out more on this, possibly by doing some experiments which may be the only way to fully resolve the matter.