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SHAGLEY
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Hypo/Hyper thyroid foods Reply with quote

Hi Shelley

I hope you are well and fit Very Happy

I was looking for info on which foods to avoid or eat more of with hypo and hyper thyroid conditions!

I looked on Julia Changs site but couldnt find any thing.

Could you please also tell me about which oils to use and what ratios they should be in with either conditions.

Thank you
Shagley
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Invincible
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you hypo or hyper?

I am a bit hypo and chromium really helps! It's also found in good supply in brewer's/nutritional yeast. Taking kelp/sea foods/iodine helps a lot too.
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goitre is associated with hypothyroidism and can be induced by the following foods...
soybeans, cabbage, cauliflower, peanuts and millet, esp if they are from iodine-deficient soils.
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SHAGLEY
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok heresz the story so far!

Ive now done 12 liver flushes and my 13th is coming up in a few days.
My colon is clean my kidneys seem ok and my last flush produced only a handfull of very dark green stones which i hope are coming from way back where there cant be many left Razz
I feel that the flushes combined with the anti-candida/whole foods diet plus incorperating my dosha needs (pitta) are the keys to my PHENOMENAL IMPROVEMENT this last few months.

My concern now is my thyroid!
I am VERY sensitive to cold and my hands are very dry and course, sometimes they go cracked and purple and are constantly cold.
I have strange reactions to flaxseed oil! I get shivers and instant dryness of the hands and my throat goes tight.
I feel the same coldness inside when i have almonds but i feel warm when having oilyt fish.
Does this sound like hypo thyroid to you?
What should i avoid or use more of?
I love coconut oil Razz
It makes me feel warm and i can brave the cold much better!
My weight is normal too, no major increase or decrease.

Any ideas guys/gals?

Shagley
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensitivity to cold along with the other symptoms you mention eg dry skin are symptoms of HYPOthyroidism or underactive thyroid. I don't know enough about it though to give proper advice other than cutting back on those foods I mentioned/
Doesn't liver flushing help the thyroid get back to normal? Perhaps you need to chelate or something. Just a thought. Anyway, obviously stick to the coconut oil if it makes you feel better! Stick to fish oils instead of flax.
I'm sure Shelley will have good advice Smile
Anne
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. Shelley recommends zinc for thyroid problems
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SHAGLEY
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickpea wrote:
P.S. Shelley recommends zinc for thyroid problems

Yeah i read that about zinc!
I actually forgot to mention that as of 3 weeks ago i am now mercury free (12 fillings all out) and i do see a lot of improvements already but its hard to say what is the main factor cos i think all the things ive been doing combined are helping individually.
I thought it was HYPO too but dont know what to avoid/accentuate or supplement with?

Shelley Confused
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SHAGLEY
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.s i do see a major improvement with the thyoid thing after each flush but its short lived Crying or Very sad

Shagley
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid the goitrogens and accentuate skin food (for vit A/betacarotene) like bone broths, butter, sweet potatoes, juiced carrots, eggs, kefir, and soaked seeds for zinc. Shelley usually recommends skin foods for thyroid issues.
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SHAGLEY
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickpea wrote:
Avoid the goitrogens and accentuate skin food (for vit A/betacarotene) like bone broths, butter, sweet potatoes, juiced carrots, eggs, kefir, and soaked seeds for zinc. Shelley usually recommends skin foods for thyroid issues.


Ok well im no good with sweet potatoes or butter but i like pumpkin seeds Very Happy especially after theyve been in the oven for a few minutes. Arent seeds/nuts bad for hypo?
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know seeds and nuts can be bad for hypo...I'm sure they'd be ok if you soak them first and also if you sprout them.
Even if you've had your fillings out you may still have metals in your tissues affecting your gland function. Just a thought but maybe chelation might help.
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to mention, cod liver oil would also be good.
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Rozenkwarts
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Is kelp = kombu? Reply with quote

I also suffer from cold hands/feet and my skin is very dry. my naturopath doctor told me my thyroid was slow (hypo) so i want to increase iodine.

I have been looking out for Kelp but i can't find it. (I live in Belgium) Is kelp the same as Kombu? (thick long seaweed sticks)

If hypothyroid people should avoid cabbage does that include sauerkraut (naturally fermented cabbage) ? I am eating a few heaped tablespoons of fermented cabbage at least 3 times a week (to help restore bowel flora) would this be too much?

thanks
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chickpea
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rosenkwarts,

No I would NOT AVOID SAUERKRAUT as fermented foods are predigested and metabolised by the body in a completely different way and are very beneficial. Much like soya generally which is not good but small fermented amounts in tamari, miso etc are OK.

The foods I mentioned are from a book called "Staying Healthy with Nutrition" (1992) by Elson M. Haas. He says,
"Goitrogens are substances that can induce goiter, primarily by interfering with the formation and function of thyroglobulin. Some natural goitrogens are soybeans, cabbage, cauliflower, and peanuts, especially when they come from iodine-deficient soils. Millet has recently been described as having goitrogenic tendencies".

I would just listen to your body. If you eat a lot of these foods (in an unfermented form) then see if your symptoms get worse.

Kelp and kombu are both seaweeds and both highly nutritious but kelp has a much higher iodine content.

I'm sure Shelley will have more good advice as I'm definitely no expert on this!
Anne
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickpea wrote:
I'm sure Shelley will have more good advice as I'm definitely no expert on this!
Anne


Don't underestimate yourself! You are quite an expert in my opinion.
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