Feeling extremely weak

[chickpea]

Hi Shelley,

As you know I've been doing cleansing and preparing for my next liver flush which is supposed to be tomorrow. I've had this headache on and off for a few days but has been on and off generally for a few weeks since I took a supplement containing, amongst other things, 100mgs of Alpha Lipoic Acid. I took this on and off before Xmas and over Xmas. ALA substance chelates mercury (which I did not know!).

I stopped taking this supp as it made me feel worse eg mental confusion, memory loss and metal taste in mouth with a big increase in the production of saliva. Since then I did a liver flush and noticed an improvement energy and mentally-wise. However, I had cravings and overate on carbs a bit since the flush.

The last week or so I've been drinking noni juice, potassium broth, juice. I did a coffee enema on Saturday which didn't really make much difference to my energy generally.

Yesterday the headache got worse and I could feel a cold coming on and started to feel weaker, with no appetite.
The headache got quite bad so assuming it was a detox headache (it's like a band of pain across the top of my forehead, sometimes in the middle of my forehead esp when it gets more intense. I also can't keeping spitting as I'm producing so much saliva! Have to keep a cup next to me.
I had a cleansing drink (molasses, sea salt, lime juice, dash of cayenne pepper) and a glass of water with 1 teaspoon of epsom salts. You suggested rubbing in ginger paste but I have none though I'll try and buy some today.

About 8pm I did a deep enema (water and dash of sea salt) which got a lot of stuff out but made no difference to the headache, perhaps even made it worse and the metal taste in my mouth came back. I then did a pascalite clay bath for 1/2 hour about 9.45pm. Did not seem to make any difference to how I was feeling.

Had a small carrot and fennel juice with coconut oil and lecithin before bed.

Went to bed with the headache and metal taste still there. (Re the metal taste, sometimes it's like my two back bottom are secreting a metal substance.....yet I've had my fillings out 4/5 years ago!!! I don't understand this!)

The headache has stayed with me ALL night and is still there now 7am. It varies in intensity. I woke up feeling extremely weak with a low heart beat. My body is still trying to have a cold. The headache is really worrying me now as it's been with me for almost 24 hours.

I also still have no appetite but have eaten a pear, a few brazil nuts and a teaspoon of coconut oil. I will come off the noni and think I'll have to postpone the liver flush as I don't think you're supposed to flush when you have a cold? I'm scared to do another enema in case it weakens me further.

I thought what I would do today is just eat small meals and drink potassium broth. (I'll need to go out and buy another bag of potatoes which is annoying as I feel so weak!) Do you think this is the best plan?
Also postpone the flush?

I think that's everything. Sorry this is a long post, I thought it best to give you the full picture.

Thanks
Anne

[Invincible]

Sorry to hear you are feeling so bad Anne. I don't know what to suggest I'm afraid. Hopefully Shelley will be able to advise.

I'm wondering why after all this time you still need to chelate the mercury .. I thought most of it would've gone by now.

Did you ever see the post about making cilantro and almond pesto that Owen wrote on CureZone? He used fresh cilantro, almonds and olive oil ... put all in a blender and ate a tablespoon every day. This helps wash out the mercury I believe.

I'll see if i can dig out that link. Ahhh .. found it! http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=42&i=1490

I've used 100mg of ALA for several months on and off only because I read it was a superior anti-oxidant. I've never had any reaction from it so not sure what it's doing in my body. Maybe mine's not active, not sure.

And you're right, don't flush if you're feeling weak or having a cold. Your body is already cleansing, doing a flush would be too much now.

You could try an ice pack on your head. Got a bag of peas?

Hope you feel better soon!

(((((((((BIG HUG))))))))))

[chickpea]

Thanks Invinc
I just went back to bed for a bit but still feel more or less the same. I've had molasses and sea salt drink and peppermint tea.
I can't get hold of cilantro leaves (or will some fresh coriander do?) and also when I used to grow it and eat it every day I felt it was too strong for me...sigh! Thanks so much for the link anyway
Anyway I was expecting the pascalite to draw the metals out and reduce the symptoms without any effects....I thought that's what it did? That's my second clay bath, last one a few months back.
I might do a detox bath tonight but wait to see what Shelley suggests. I'm probably just very dehydrated again I suppose.
From what I've been reading on the Amalgam Dentistry forum at curezone ALA should be taken in quick short bursts eg every 3 hours. I didn't know this. Apparently for people with mercury in the blood stream but NOT in the brain, it can move the mercury INTO THE BRAIN!!!!!
I'm so worried that's what it's done for me

I do have some frozen veg thanks . I also have some 3 day old urine so might rub that on my head?
I think I'll brave the shops first though and get some more supplies and do the urine rub later as dont' want to smell like an old bag of fish and chips in public

Thanks for all the support and advice
Anne
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[Invincible]

Hi again Anne

I think fresh corriander leaves = clinatro. I just get it by the bunch from Sainsbury's or Tesco's. Add it to something like Kichadi.

I'm wondering if taking some pascalite internally would help push things out. Definately try the urine rub on the head and then get into a nice detox bath ... or just a nice bubble bath with aromatherapy oils will help.

Make sure you keep well hydrated!

Are you taking Bach rescue remedy? I'm sure that will help too!

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[chickpea]

Thanks again Invinc, you're an angel

I'll buy some coriander leaves and probably have a bath later
I just had a very interesting e-mail from a guy called Andy Cutler who people refer to a lot on the amalgam dentistry forum. I wrote to him for some advice. He's written a book about how to chelate properly and safely.

This is what he said....

"I mostly answer stuff like this if it is posted on the frequent dose
chelation group of Yahoo and the post number is sent to me.

I don't think the foot pads, clay baths or NDF (or PCA or metal free or
metal flush etc etc etc) work. Homeopathy can't do it and can make you quite sick (it is fine for other things, but mercury detox is not something it is appropriate for).

Liver flushes are not a good choice. They make sensitive people very
sick.

ALA is a very inexpensive over the counter supplemenet that works
really well. I presume you have my book HREF="http://www.noamalgam.com/">"Amalgam
Illness:" Diagnosis and Treatment of Mג€¦ which covers it.

If you want to post it for more details the URL to post on that list is
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/

Andy"

Anyway I've already joined the group so maybe get some more guidance.

Bye for now
Anne
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[Invincible]

That's interesting Anne! So, is he suggesting that ALA is the best route? That it's the ONLY route?

Maybe you could buy his book and find a protocol for you to work with. Let me know what you find out ... I'm not good with reading posts in those yahoo groups.

Do you think people can chelate and still keep their fillings in?

[chickpea]

Hiya!

Yes it's very interesting what he says. I think he also recommends DMSA but mainly ALA taken every 3 hours in short bursts. I'm sure there's much more to his protocol than that though! I'm not sure if you can chelate if you still have fillings but will find out more info when I get his book I've ordered it from Amazon already! (about £19 with P&P).

Yes the yahoo messages are difficult to read and the group he recommends is particularly bad, each message alternating between bright green and light green...it gives me a headache looking at it!

I've been out to get some more supplies for more potassium broth and just going to chill now.
Bye
Anne
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[shelley]

ALA is a very powerful chelator, and is supposed to be used in conjunction with another chelator. I like Andy Cutler's protocol. I believe you're only supposed to take 50 mg of ALA, and every 4 hours around the clock. ALA is the only chelator that takes mercury out of the brain, thus the weird head feelings. Those are very typical symptoms, reported by everyone who has taken ALA for mercury poisoning.

So you woke up a bear, and now it's going to roar until you get it out! Be sure to read up on Cutler's protocol, back down on the dose but increase the frequency, and amp up on the anti-oxidants for several days - Emergen-C especially.

Whenever you start salivating like crazy eat some salt.

[chickpea]

Thanks Shelley,
I mustn't have explained myself properly.
I'm not taking ALA now, I stopped taking it 4 weeks ago. I think the metal taste, headache, fatigue etc is due to the mercury coming out due to all the cleansing I've been doing eg noni, juices.
I'm taking Vit C but too scared to take the EmergenC in case I react to the niacin and make myself worse.
I'm very scared but will plough on!
Anne

[shelley]

well you SHOULD be taking the ALA and the other chelator (goodness why can't I remember the name???) if you are tasting metals. If you're tasting them, they are floating free in your body and so you need a binder to pull them out all the way.

[chickpea]

Right! I'll get some tomorrow pronto!! I only have the one with 100mg which is too much and is in fish oil so can't split it.
You mean DMSA? That's the other one Andy recommends though he says ALA is enough on it's own.

[Invincible]

Hi Anne

Saw this information .. maybe it's of interest.

http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p45.htm

[chickpea]

Thanks Invince
I had a look, it's interesting but some of the info seems to conflict with Andy Cutler's
Oh well, there's no point in getting too stressed about it!!
Anne

[shelley]

Yeah, DMSA.

Well the pills can be split if you don't mind a bit of a mess and actually tasting the oils... but geez what a pain!

[chickpea]

Invinc,

Just thought I'd let you know that Andy Cutler told me to NOT take ALA until 3 months after amalgam removal.
I know you take it periodically. I did read in the tonnes of info that the yahoo group links to, that mercury can lead to restlessness, being easily distracted, lack of motivation/initative (things you say you feel a lot) amongst the millions of other symptoms.
Of course that might not have anything at all to do with you but it was just a thought and maybe worth keeping a diary to see if there are any patterns between when you take the ALA and how you feel.

BTW that website you told me about.....I asked other members of the group and they said the info is 'crap' and dangerous advice! What a minefield!!!

My headache has subsided a lot and I've got a cold and achey but just did a urine rub and left on for 1 hr then had a hot bath. I'm sure it will help
Bye for now
Anne
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