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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: hyperkalemia??, help! |
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hi shelley, yesterday at night I was doing a ACV enema for candida, and I did 4 enemas of 3 cups of water with 4 tbsp of acv, anyway when I was doing the 4th enema I suddenly felt kidney pressure and felt muscle weakness, I immediately made the connection that acv is rich in potassium and checked my heart beat and it was very weak and slow, I also started getting brain symptoms lightheadedness and numbness in the frontal lobe and the frontal lobe shut off. I quickly took a tsp of baking soda in water and calcium to counter the pottasium and drank water but it didn't do much. I woke up bloated with the water still in my bowels, and with my brain still feeling dead (esp the front) it's afternoon now and I still havent' recovered my heart beat is still kind of sluggish I think although my mum who's a nurse says it isn't.
Do you think it was in fact hyperkalemia and is there a chance I got insufficient bloodflow to the brain and can that result in brain damage? i didn't pass out or anything. I'm really freaked out I feel semi-conscious, dont remember many things, and numb in the front of my brain.
I should also note I was chelating, making my 3rd day with a round of 25mg dmsa and I stoped the round when this happened. (I know not the smartest move to do 2 things at once but I wanted dmsa present in the blood in case I liberated some metals from the gut ). but i doubt it's from chrlation it happened afte rthe enema.
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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That is too much ACV to add to just 4 cups, definitely, but not enough to screw you up permenantly, just enough to make your kidneys work hard to maintain the proper pH and electrolyte balance. So eat something salty and you'll be fine.
Stick to plain, just one teaspoon of salt type flushing enemas, from now on. |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| thanx shelley. what about the brain issue, could the potassium and low heart beat have brought it on, is it something to be worried about? I have been in this semi-comatose state the whole night and day, I dont wanna be a pain in the ass, but am asking to just make sure, have had enough brain problems already. |
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep, the brain requires a very specific blend of electrolytes. Mess it up and anything can happen - mood changes, migraines, depression, anxiety... |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| thanx shelley |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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shelley sorry to bug you again, but it's the next day and my brain still hasn't recovered. I am so freaked out, peripherial parts of my brain, esp the front feel DEAD and it has been like that since that last acv enema. You say it shouldn't screw me up permanently but is ther even a possibility that it damaged my brain because of lack of strong pulse and not enough oxygen?
please repsond
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope, doesn't work that way. I recommend stopping all chelating and just eating really healthy whole foods and super-foods for a week or two before resuming any cleansing/detoxing. Take some walks and oxygenate your body. |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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hey shelley it's me again. sorry for buggin u, but I have no one to turn to.
It's been a weak and there's been no improvement. both my frontal lobes and temporal lobes to a large extent feel DEAD. I can't think at all and my mind has regressed to a child's mind. I actually think like a child now, cause that's what i remember it felt like. I have no analytical thinking, can't read people dont get jokes, my motivations flat etc etc. I don't feel human, like a begetable. And I just feel this big hole in the front of my brain. And while I've had similair states to those due to candida/heavy metals they are nowhere near to what's happened a week ago after that enema. Those brain parts I speak of don't feel foggy, or sleepy, or 'weak' they just feel DEAD. I try to 'think', awaken them as much as I can , but I can't.
I've read online that low blood pressure can cause brain damage, and honestly I can't think of anything else that whould have brought this conditon on. I took that enema at night at about 1am, and when I woke up the next morning on sunday and took my blood pressure it was borderline low 90/60. So it's possible I had a lower blood pressure than that the whole night since taking the enema for the whole couple of hours, esp since I had some of the acv water left in the bowels that I couldn't expell. it seems the only logical explanation. Shelley, do you have any thoughts, suggestions? I am devastated. |
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, I don't have enough experience with this kind of thing to be definitive, so see a doctor you trust and get some tests run! You can try herbs that help circulation and brain power, such as cayenne, guarana, gingko biloba, but otherwise? Best to get tested! |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| shelley what tests would u advise? I'm thinking of doing mri some time soon. |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| oh I've already talked to my gp and he says he doubts it could result in any brain damage, but he didn't order any tests and u know what GP's are like:/ |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: |
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hey shelley it's me again. It's been over a month now, almost 2 and I see no imprvement in my brain fucntion. Sorry for getting back to this again, but I am desperate in looking for answers. My brain, still feels dead, and my frontal lobes and teporal lobes are basically shut off. Only understand the basis of things, no intelligence anymore.
I did an MRI on friday and it came back perfectly clear. The doc says it's unlikelely brain damage and the mri seems to confirm it. But something had to happen. Do you have any suggestions shelley, please I beg you, can you tell me whether you think it's possibble for damage to occur with clear MRI's? Cause that's what it feels - DAMAGE- like not like some mercury/candida/allergy brain problem but like DAMAGE.
this is a matter of life and death for me shelley please please , help me work this out as nobody else can.
hope you're doing good as well.
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Hey sweetie, what exactly do you mean that it feels like the frontal lobe is dead? Do you mean that when you feel your skull it has numb areas, or that you cannot function with the same smarts/awareness that you used to?
90 over 60 is not dangerously low at all. Certainly not low enough to cause brain damage. IF your blood pressure ever gets low (or high) enough for brain damage, it would also cause seizures, and you do not sleep through grand mal seizures! You'd definitely know that something happened, and it would show up on an MRI.
So a healthy MRI is a very good thing. It may not be 100% conclusive, but it's a very good sign, at least 95% conclusive that all is well. So what exactly are your symptoms? Poor recall? Any physical difficulties that only affect one side of your body? Please be more descriptive.  |
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jinx1983 Researcher
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Hey shelley, thank you very much for replying!
Yes I mean the second thing, I am not as smart/aware as before and I can't even emphasise how much! I say those frontal lobes and temporal lobes feel dead, because I feel no connections there, it's like those brain parts are in a *complete* coma.
Sorry for not being descripitive enough, but that's it, one of the symptoms! All those functions that are associated with frontal lobes, like planning, analytical thinking, moral qualities, understanding and reading people, metaphores, movies, books feel 90% either asleep or dead. It's like being a kid again who doesn't understand things about how the world works. And I used to be a very analytical person, a 'thinker type', lol I actually remember apologising to you in my first post to you 2 years ago for being overly descriptive, but you said you prefer it that way;)
90% of my memories are also gone, just some scattered images. Yet haven't lost my identity (but have personality!), remember being at school, college but no details at all, and there's much more to human memory than those ey? Like I had all this vast knowldge about how the body works (as most of us helath sufferers do I guess) I remember I read in the past your FAQ so many times that I knew many of it's parts by heart- it's gone now.
I also used to be very articulate, both in my native language and English, which I was a teacher of. Forgot many many words, expressions, or just dont have access to them. So that'be the temporal lobes feeling 'dead'.
Plus these sensual deficits - you don't register sounds anymore the way you did before, it's like you miss a lot, you dont register the complexity of music when you listen to it, you can't often distinguish words out of conversation properly.
Same visually-spatially , you don't view things in 3d so to say, but everything seems like 2d.
No, I have no neurolgoical symptoms or symptoms that would only pertain to one side of the body.
It's all cognitive you'd say, like dementia. All the things that make a person intelligent - gone. And I mean ALL. What I have left is just some function to allow for a logical functioning, but no intelligence in it all.
And those brain parts I speak of do feel numb a bit, or at least did for the first weeks, like you had pressure there all over. Actually the first 2 weeks after that enema felt like I had none of those brain parts (frontal/temporal lobes) at all, then the feel of the "brain matter being there" came back. But there's still a complete blackout of connections, there has been maybe like 1-2% improvement.
I guess that's all. Hope it tells you more Shelley.
as for this 90/60 blood pressure - no it isn't so badly low as u say, but I never had it that low and considering I had it in the morning following that enema, I thought it's possible that I had an even lower than that blood pressure throughot the whole night - so a couple of hours - and that somehow affected the brain. But that's just my theory, I guess I need to desperetely know what happened.
thanx again shelley! |
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shelley Editor in Chief
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Okay, memory loss type issues are usually due to (once stroke and AD are ruled out and I think we can do that): Low sodium, low iodine, low sulfur, low zinc, low Vitamin B1, low Vit E, low choline/inositol/lecithin, high copper, low EFAs, heavy metal toxicity.
I'd start with iodine if you haven't already, and zinc. You get both choline and inositol by taking lecithin or the protein shake.
Has your thyroid been checked? What was TSH? |
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