First time flush - any advice?

[diggler]

Hi all,

Completed my 5th flush yesterday.

I only managed to get half the OO/GF mixture down though. It made me gag, and I knew that if I tried to get the other half down, it would have all come straight back up.

I did manage to get about another 2 tablespoons of OO down with water. I was worried that the flush wouldn't work.

The next day, I had mainly gravel, with a few small stones. All of the gravel/tiny stones were tan in colour, except a small amount which were green.

Does anyone know what it means if get mainly gravel out? Does it mean my liver/GB are close to being cleared?

Also, what does it mean that most of the stones/gravel were tan coloured? When I squashed one, it had no green in the middle - tan all the way through. I've never had this before except for a few now and again.

Thanks for any advice.

ps - Can I drink the Olive Oil with just plain water? Or does the grapefruit play another role apart from taste?

[h0ppy]

hey diggler,

Getting mainly gravel out is just as good as getting big stones. Have you been taking any stone breakers? If so, they are working!

I've heard tan stones are from the gallbladder. Maybe they're not green because the bile pigment has not been able to fully color them. So they could be new. I'm not entirely sure though, so I'm eager to see what Shelley has to say.

There is a point to the grapefruit! Not only does it emulsify the OO, but it acts as a fast transport to the small intestine. If you took all that OO without lemon/grapefruit juice, then it would just sit in the stomach for hours.

[shelley]

Fats are normally just white. The coloring agents are the different toxins present in the fat, in either the liver or gallbladder, altho they have more chance to become sedimented inside fats inside the gallbladder. Tan means there's just a little bit of bilirubin in the fat. Bilirubin is the compound created by the liver from dead red blood cells. It is the main coloring agent in stools. Green is biliverdin, which is similar, but oxygen changed the color from brownish to green.

[diggler]

Thanks guys,

I've taken the usual stone breakers I taken with all previous flushes. ACV, Malic Acid, and Apple Juice. Although, I took them for less days than before.

Do you think the fact that I only managed half the OO/GF mixture had any impact on the results of the flush?

So do the tan stones or gravel provide any indication as to the level of liver cleansing I'm at?

Thanks for the info on the grapefruit, I didnt know this. Is it fine to use lemon juice instead then? And would it be ok to do it in seperate 'shots' over about 10 minutes? I mean like take a gulp of olive oil, then a gulp of lemon juice, without actually making a mixture out of it.

I really don;t think I could get another mixture of OO/GF down. I think its more the grapefruit that I don't like though. I actually dont like to drink GF juice on its own even.

Ritchie, are you still around? How are things going with you?

Take care.

[shelley]

You really don't need all that much oil to have a successful liver flush. I use less than a cup, split up into two doses.

Lemon juice works great, it forces the gallbladder to contract harder than grapefruit does. Ideally, it's best to mix grapefruit and lemon. Yuo can also add a little bit of orange for flavor. You really do have to mix the oil and juice together, however. Use a straw and you won't taste it much.

My naturopathic doctor advises people to drink a small glass of sweet lemonade after the oil/juice mixture. I find it makes me too full, but it might work for you.

[diggler]

Thanks for the advice Shelley,

You've encouraged me to do my 6th flush, I was seriously thinking about calling it a day with liver flushing. Partly because I can't stand the grapefruit juice.

But also, because after 5 successful flushes, I've seen no benefit in my sinus problems. I'm looking at other angles though. Am giving up dairy and wheat and going to do some juice fasting soon. Also, taking your advice on the power of digestion, but situation is difficult at the moment.

For my 6th flush I'll try the lemon juice, a milder tasting OO, and the straw method. Probably do it in another week or so.

Thanks again. Its much appreciated as always.

[Ritchie]

Yeah, still around diggler..

Having to take a break from the flushing at the mo as we are having a new kitchen fitted and everything is topsy turvy. Will give it a couple more flushes, but like you, haven't seen any results only a worsening of symptoms whilst flushing, which I suppose is because of all the released toxins.. feeling a tad better since stopping and having a break from it all has also cleared some of my acne and my tingling mouth after eating has disappeared for now.. which is a bonus

I have had to cut down on taking those liver cleanse tablets as the recommened amount was making me break out again. Just take one before bed for now.. must of been too much toxins released again. How yer doing with your liver cleanse tablets?

Dreading starting flushing again as I know it makes me feel worse but in the off chance it might cure all my symptoms then I'm prepared to go for it.. gonna use a straw next time round as well

Keep on keeping on,

All the best,

Ritchie

[diggler]

Hi Ritchie,

I took the Bupleurum tablets for a week (4-6 a day). Felt no different. I'll start up again next week I think.

How many were you taking per day?

I guess the fact that you were breaking out meant that the tabs were working - the die-off effect maybe. A sign of the toxins being released.

I'm not looking forward to my next flush, but I am looking forward to some juice fasts I have planned. Gonna do a short 'trial' one this weekend for 2 days. Then gonna do another one for 7-10 days in mid August when I have some time off work. Hopefully, I'll see some benefit from this. I'm just a bit worried about losing weight, cos I'm fairly underweight as it it.

I'm getting a bit demoralised as I've seen no improvement at all, but I'll keep plugging away, trying to incorporate more things into my plan. (like I've started taking ACV before meals).

Take care.

[diggler]

Hi all,

Did my 6th flush over the weekend. This time I used 125ml olive oil, and 125ml fresh lemon juice (no grapefruit). This was a little 'easier' to get down, although I did feel nautious in the night.

The flush worked as normal. I got fewer stones out then the first 4 flushes - but about the same as the last one I did.

The stones were a little different this time though, I got a lot of dark green stones which I have never passed before. Does this mean anything?

I'm getting very discouraged about doing the flushes any more. I've passed loads of stones in my 6 flushes, but feel no different than when I first started - allegy-wise.

Has anyone here actually got all of their stones out from the liver/GB? Also, have people seen improvements in their allergies.

Am I just being impatient or is this really not working? I don't know whether to carry on or not.

Anyway, gonna do one more with lemons in2 weeks, then I'll give it a rest for a month or 2.

Ciao.

[h0ppy]

i think the dark dark green stones are really old. i had a couple black ones before, and shelley said those were from dead red blood cells i believe.

i haven't gotten all the stones out of my GB and liver, but i have a feeling that i'm getting there.

you might be so congested that you will need to flush more than the average person. i think once you've eliminated the majority of the stones you will see allergy improvements.

so like shelley says, keep on keeping on.

[diggler]

Did flush #7 this weekend.

Usual results - moderate amount of small stones along with lots chaff.

I definately find that lemon juice is much easier to get down than grapefruit (this is probably because I don't like grapefruit anyway).

Am physically sick of doing the flushes now, and getting no results health-wise means I'm gonna stop now.

Maybe in 6-8 weeks I'll do another 1 or 2 to see how it goes.

I'd also like to say thanks to shelley and everyone else who's offered their advice to me, as I was completely clueless about flushing before I started around 2 months ago. Its highly appreciated.

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.