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J F
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, in fact it was you, Shelley, who explained the bread thing to me awhile back. I took a cue from you and stuck with sourdough and french bread, and it's great! I can always tell when I've had too much of it, though. Usually if I've had it for a number of days straight (so bad). My digestion goes off balance immediately, I get gas and bloating, I suddenly add a couple of extra pounds around my belly and to the scale and I get some old aches and pains back. LOL If that isn't a sign, I don't know what is. Laughing
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Treader
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shelley,

Do you think that's it's ok to have 2 pieces of Ezekial bread on a daily basis? I like to make french toast with them. I use 1 free range egg and 1/3 cp of organic half and half to coat them...cook them in butter, and then use butter and lots of cinnamon on top...nothing else.

I also like to have a muffin everyday. They're made out of freshly ground soaked and dried almonds, mixed with an equal amount of grated carrotts, 3 eggs, 1/2 cp yogurt, and a heaping tblspn of cinnamon. Sometimes with blueberries mixed in. No flour at all.

I really don't get how complex cabs prepared properly can feed yeast anymore than a plate of green beans would after it has been broken down? I eat a ton of cooked veggies everyday along with free range (abx free) chickens. I have 3 large BM's evryday...360 days a yr, but I have only been adding the Ezekial bread and muffins for the last 2 weeks. I just don't want to strenthen any yeast that is there. Do you think that this will?
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shelley
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there really isn't much that you should be eating on a daily basis. All of your foods without fail should be cycled out of your diet every now and again, particularly when dealing with allergies and leaky gut syndrome. Try having just rice pilaf or kichadi on some days.

almonds have tons of phosphorus, more than meat, so yep, cycle those out occasionally too.

complex carbs don't feed yeast IF they are digested completely, efficiently and quickly. Yeasties like simple sugars. If the foods are also heavily spiced or eaten with something pungent, the yeasties can't even get to them.

That's why my guidelines allow for sweet potatoes and berries after the first month. Of course, your results may vary, but I found that they didn't increase my candida symptoms at all.


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michael515
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shelley wrote:
I haven't yet found a good metaphor to explain what goes on, and the factors are complicated. You also have to take into consideration the effect of pH (simple sugars and starches change pH differently), the presence of other micro-organisms, and how they interact with water and oxygen (carbs bind water and this inhibits candida, candida can be anaerobic or not...).

It's important to keep in mind that just because there is food and digestion it doesn't follow that there has to be fermentation (increase of candida). If the enzymes get to the sugars before the yeast, the yeast don't have a chance to cause fermentation.

It's also important to note that there are 2 kinds of candida structures. Their original single-celled state, like the bread yeast, is fine and necessary, we need them. It's the rhizomes (stalk-like) that are virulent and destructive. They each "eat" differently.

Yes, preparing foods with spices is key. It decreases transit time so that fermentation is less likely, and makes the foods very unpalatable to candida because of their anti-fungal, anti-bacterial properties.

Does that help? Smile


Shelley,

Will you please post a link or reference to scientific evidence to the claim that the body will absorb disaccharides? I've found this to be incorrect.

Warmest regards,
Michael
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shelley
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for bringing that up, Michael! It seems I was refreshing my memory that day with an Internet text that was incorrect. So I went back to my school books and brushed up yet again and the small intestine does like mono sugars, using salt as the transport molecule. Okay, now I have to rethink things! LOL! Smile
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